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02-18-2012 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I can't tell which is worse, Billy Gunn nearly making the cut or Piper making the top 50 simply for blowing halon at Morton Downey Jr. with a fire extinguisher.
The Undertaker not making the top 10 is a travishamockery of epic proportions compared to those two things put together.
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02-18-2012 , 01:54 PM
Yeah Undertaker being 13th is really ****ing weird.
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02-18-2012 , 05:12 PM
who was #23?
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02-18-2012 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by teejayC
who was #23?
It's the strangest thing, I have no idea who it could have been; it's almost like he has been wiped from history.
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02-18-2012 , 05:21 PM
lol I'm so dumb, nice.
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02-18-2012 , 11:03 PM
Let's talk about #23 for a bit. He made the list despite at least 1 person not ranking him at all, and despite having some of his best work in Japan.



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He was in one of the incarnations of the Four Horsemen but won't be in the WWE HOF this year. When any of his entrance themes came on, you knew you were in for a hell of a match. Harley Race says he regrets popularizing the headbutt off the ropes because of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWMJuUYxFM
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02-18-2012 , 11:19 PM
Chris Benoit did have a ton of great work in Japan; his Super J Cup win against Great Sasuke is well-known, but he had great matches against Jushin Liger, Black Tiger I and II (I think II was Eddie Guerrero), and Shinjiro Otani.

I was actually more impressed with his time in ECW though, and I really thought that that was going to be his breakout period. Unfortunately, Paul Heyman forgot to renew his work visa and he ended up going back to New Japan and then having a couple dead years. By the time he joined the Horsemen, I think he had to rebuild the name recognition that he had earned with ECW. His feuds with Kevin Sullivan were great in some ways, but ultimately, Sullivan wasn't the type of wrestler that Benoit could shine against. I really think Benoit's career could have been a lot bigger than it turned out to be if he'd have caught one or two breaks along the way.
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02-18-2012 , 11:43 PM
Benoit wrestled under the names "Wild Pegasus" and "Pegasus Kid" in Japan, just an FYI that might be useful to anybody who wants to search that stuff.

Like several people who were ready to become stars, Benoit was buried somewhat and poorly utilized in WCW's twilight years.
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02-19-2012 , 05:33 AM
And now...............the Top 10, of course counted as down with as much professionalism as Gordon Solie used to count down the top 10 on "Wrestling News Network".

10:



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WCW was wise enough to give him a lot of freedom to display how awesome he was, but not wise enough to book him or treat him in a reasonable manner.

He says that WCW was so inefficient that it once sent him a Fed Ex package with nothing at all inside it.

Last edited by moorobot; 02-19-2012 at 05:51 AM.
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02-19-2012 , 05:34 AM


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John Cena

It occurs to me that many box office draws got the kinds of mixed reactions that Cena has. Some people tune in to see him, some tune in hoping to see him lose.
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02-19-2012 , 05:35 AM
8.....



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Sting

Think about how long the Undertaker has been a main eventer. Sting has been a main eventer for even longer then that.

Sting was the hardest wrestler to think of what theme to use for, as he’s had so many good ones, and has had many good personas that match the theme he used at the time he was using them but not others.

The following was actually his second WCW theme, used around the time he won his first title:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Y-4AG29Hw

The crow sting theme:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ8RkSlrnJM

And the Metallica song he used post crow in WCW:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCA79r-wSTU

Last edited by moorobot; 02-19-2012 at 05:52 AM.
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02-19-2012 , 05:37 AM
7.



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Bret Hart

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02-19-2012 , 05:38 AM
SIX



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02-19-2012 , 05:39 AM
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FOUR



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Shawn Michaels

Last edited by moorobot; 02-19-2012 at 05:53 AM.
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02-19-2012 , 05:41 AM
It comes down to three men, then.
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02-19-2012 , 05:45 AM
A man who started wrestling in 1972, in 3rd place:



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Ric Flair

Ric Flair‘s work (both in the ring and on the mic) has seemingly aged incredibly well, maybe better then anybody else in wrestling history. Not the biggest or the fastest guy, but he had seemingly endless energy; unlimited fuel, never tiring no matter what he put his body through, never wanting to stop. He never wanted to be normal. He had set a previous standard for in ring work, then was able to change with the times in 89 and perfected a new standard.
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02-19-2012 , 05:46 AM
Which means...tied at #1, a man once fired by the WWF, and who very nearly quit wrestling because he thought he would never cut it :

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02-19-2012 , 05:48 AM
Tied with a man who was once told he was unmarketable both by WCW and by those in charge of WWF's merchandising:

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02-19-2012 , 06:34 AM
No "Real American" theme? Denied.

Enjoyed this reveal moorobot, thanks for putting in the work.
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02-19-2012 , 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
No "Real American" theme? Denied.
It was usurped by #61. The U.S. Express used it a few times too IIRC.

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Enjoyed this reveal moorobot, thanks for putting in the work.
I liked doing it; thanks much to everyone who participated.
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02-19-2012 , 07:00 AM
Also, my plan to count down my own list before the reveal involved a final post like this:

And, my #1 overall...



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Part of the greatest tag team of all time, and then hitting new heights as a singles competitor, The Warlord pulls what some might see as a mild upset in edging out Hulk Hogan for the #1 spot.


But the GOAT matches tourney and the draft were already draining me, so my plan was foiled.

Last edited by LKJ; 02-19-2012 at 07:01 AM. Reason: The rest of my list was the serious one you saw though.
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02-19-2012 , 07:04 AM
Nice; it's like Dylan speaking in LKJ's tone.
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02-19-2012 , 10:23 AM
Still pretty amazing to me that people have Austin in the same stratosphere as Hogan, but this was a great reveal and thanks for doing it. Closing my eyes and trying to guess the entrance music was a fun diversion.
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02-20-2012 , 02:42 AM
wish id gotten around to entering this. my list would probably have singlehandedly have jumped road dogg from outside the top 100 to mid 90s lol

definitely a solid list, which you would expect with so many people entering. angle and taker too low for me, but meh.

any chance of seeing the whole list posted straight up? can be in spoil tags
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