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A warning to those playing in Bellagio. A warning to those playing in Bellagio.

12-20-2011 , 03:25 AM
Hmmmmmmm.........

When an early reg/low count poster comes out of the woodwork I pay attention. Next trip to the B I will see for myself.
12-20-2011 , 05:49 PM
Note I haven't played at the B in over a year so this may have changed but:

I find for regs the B is really nice, but for someone that they don't know they put you on the list (after spending a few minutes trying to get their attention) and try call you when they are ready.. unless someone they know comes in before you, or unless you are more than 1 foot away from the room and can't hear the microphone. For one of the busiest rooms in Vegas I can't believe they are still doing everything on paper.
12-20-2011 , 08:07 PM
Wait lists are computerised and shown on the screen out front. Some of the floor are grumpier than others and I guess it's the same in every wals of life. There was an older thinner guy who was in this category each time I saw him over a week and especilly got upset when I asked why people were getting seated before me and I was top of the list. He had a reason that sounded plausable at the time. There was a deaf guy which was pretty funny as he missed just about every dealer call for an open seat, drinks, food table change etc and a really helpfull younger lady who had the best attitude of the lot and remembered my name by my third day which was pretty impressive.
12-22-2011 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by THE OUTLAW
I've played Bellagio once or twice per week over the past year. This is the second time I've come across Gobbo's warning. So today I made it a point to pay extra special attention and watch out for these marked Aces of spades and just like the first time around when I read about this...

I see nothing unusual.

Occasionally I would be dealt a card that appeared to be extra bowed. I would get excited- hoping to see an Ace of spades. However, one after the other its... 2d, Kh, 5s, Th, Ad, etc.

It's my belief that there is nothing fishy going on. I mean cmon. Do you really think the Bellagio Poker Room would do nothing if there was an actual threat to the integrity to their games? I'm sure that many decks were inspected after Gobbo brought this to their intention and they just brushed it off once they saw that in many of the decks there are bunches of cards of various ranks and suits that aren't 100% flat.

On a side note,

Many people on this site speak negatively of the Bellagio poker room. Most of the complaints I read are regarding the floorstaff. It's my opinion that these negative comments are coming from the problem-starting, disrespecftul, argumentative, nitty, losing poker players out there whom I win money from every weekend. I personally have never had an unpleasant expirience with any of the floors. I think they do a great job. Keep up the good work B!


+1 to this.
It's anywhere and everywhere. People bitch about any casino they play at for min of 2 days a week. Why is that? Poker players (majority) are never happy. They will bitch and moan about every room they play in on a weekly basis. Have seen this in every room.
12-22-2011 , 02:40 PM
Meh, I'm not a Vegas grinder, but Bellagio is the most over hyped room IME.

Their service was beyond ****ty, the room was crowded, and the floor appeared indifferent to the issues I saw them deal with during my time there. Do I have to go back multiple times to confirm they suck, or should I just assume that if they don't care about providing a decent experience once, it's probably an ongoing issue and find someplace better to play during my Vegas trips?

Obviously your experience may be much different if you play there a ton or play higher limits, but you should want to keep casual players happy, too, or at least not actively miserable.

I'm perfectly happy at either the Venetian or the Aria, both of which have friendly and more competent staff, IMO.
12-22-2011 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Star Trek Wikia. Not sure how many people watch TNG, so let me just explain the picture. The episode involves the Enterprise repeating the same period of time over and over again, starting with the poker game. With each pass, each of the characters remembers a little more about the previous loop - Riker successfully bluffs the first loop, but in subsequent loops Crusher subconsciously realizes he's bluffing, and by the final loop, Riker, Worf, and Crusher are yelling out the cards as they're dealt. After something like 10 cards are predicted correctly, Data (the dealer) looks up and delivers one of the best lines ever on any TV show ever: "This is highly improbable."
sounds like a really cool episode
12-23-2011 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cakewalk
sounds like a really cool episode
it's actually the penultimate loop because on the final loop, Data deals them all 3s first, then all trips as their upcards.
12-27-2011 , 03:18 AM
What does a job as the poker police entail? I've always been curious.
12-27-2011 , 12:39 PM
It entails being part of the thin blue line separating orderly poker society from utter chaos.
12-27-2011 , 07:28 PM
"Thin" in the figurative sense.
12-28-2011 , 12:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eponymous
"Thin" in the figurative sense.
12-28-2011 , 01:35 AM
^I deserve that.
12-28-2011 , 09:16 AM
And stop nitting it up in the 40/80 mix too...
12-28-2011 , 12:57 PM
Was there last week and looked for what Gobbo spoke of and didn't see it.

As for the floor at B they are okay but not the best and not the most people person types for sure.
12-29-2011 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
Aww shucks. I hope I get to meet all of you guys when I come to the oaks sometime soon.
stay away from the draw lowball game that is self dealt by a bunch of codgers that have been playing together for 40 years is my advice.
especially of things like marked cards get under your skin.
12-29-2011 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
Thanks for the defense, but it was indeed an inside joke. It doesn't even register to me as possibly a negative phrase anymore.

Speaking of undertitles, think I could use a change. Nostalgia time!
he who laughs last, lasts!!!
12-30-2011 , 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE OUTLAW
I've played Bellagio once or twice per week over the past year. This is the second time I've come across Gobbo's warning. So today I made it a point to pay extra special attention and watch out for these marked Aces of spades and just like the first time around when I read about this...

I see nothing unusual.

Occasionally I would be dealt a card that appeared to be extra bowed. I would get excited- hoping to see an Ace of spades. However, one after the other its... 2d, Kh, 5s, Th, Ad, etc.

It's my belief that there is nothing fishy going on. I mean cmon. Do you really think the Bellagio Poker Room would do nothing if there was an actual threat to the integrity to their games? I'm sure that many decks were inspected after Gobbo brought this to their intention and they just brushed it off once they saw that in many of the decks there are bunches of cards of various ranks and suits that aren't 100% flat.

On a side note,

Many people on this site speak negatively of the Bellagio poker room. Most of the complaints I read are regarding the floorstaff. It's my opinion that these negative comments are coming from the problem-starting, disrespecftul, argumentative, nitty, losing poker players out there whom I win money from every weekend. I personally have never had an unpleasant expirience with any of the floors. I think they do a great job. Keep up the good work B!
epic fail bellagio reg!

i've only played at bellagio twice this whole year and I've noticed the same issue Jimmy is bringing up in the OP.

Floor/staff behavior is deplorable. That goes w/out saying, but the rest of the problems, over crowed, terrible brush/system etc etc are all legit beefs.

I mean defend the room because there are good games, defend it because there is action there, but the rest? Lol what are you relative? family member?
please buddy.
12-30-2011 , 11:24 PM
I made a big stink at the B when they refused to provide literature on a ruling they made. All I wanted them to produce was the rule in writing.

Their answer: "It's stored on a computer in the back room, and you can't have access to it"

Me: " @#$% that, I had a feeling that all the negative things said about the mgmt of this room were true. That's BS!"

Less than 5 min later, a higher up apologized and told me that I could have access to their written rules whenever I wanted.
12-31-2011 , 12:50 PM
So which lesson do we learn from this thread.

1) This proves live poker IS rigged.

2) Only live poker at the B IS rigged.

3) If the B is using Kems then Kem cards are rigged.

4) Don't sit at the B if gobbo is at the table.
12-31-2011 , 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by callipygian
Star Trek Wikia. Not sure how many people watch TNG, so let me just explain the picture. The episode involves the Enterprise repeating the same period of time over and over again, starting with the poker game. With each pass, each of the characters remembers a little more about the previous loop - Riker successfully bluffs the first loop, but in subsequent loops Crusher subconsciously realizes he's bluffing, and by the final loop, Riker, Worf, and Crusher are yelling out the cards as they're dealt. After something like 10 cards are predicted correctly, Data (the dealer) looks up and delivers one of the best lines ever on any TV show ever: "This is highly improbable."

At any rate, I just pictured gobbo there just yelling out where the ace of spades is every other hand and the floor critters standing around with frowns on their faces, thinking, "The probability of miracle-guessing this is rapidly approaching the miniscule probability that we might be potentially less than fully correct."
whyd ya ruin it ya ****.

i havent been to las vegas to play poker yet but i am curious to see all of the poker rooms for myself.

i would think the bellagio would want to preserve their reputation as the best room in vegas, but i certainly don't have a good impression of it right now.
01-01-2012 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
Everyone has refused to acknowledge or talk about it and I've been unable to talk to the higherups in the room. I told Carmen and she said "oh really I'll let them know" and nothing happened. I assume they think I'm crazy.
ive noticed the same thing with the warping. i end up using a heavy card cover. im also finding cards that have been "hit" by a fingernail. when they call for a new setup they put the "hit" card back into the deck. those decks are used over and over and over. most of the people putting the decks in order are not looking for any bend and weave or hits. god knows what else is on the cards. you only have 2 down cards. imagine the advantage if someone knows one of them. someone needs to go thru the decks looking for various marks, shade, dab, and numerous other things that a trained eye could have a huge advantage with. oh, by the way, it was nice meeting your mom when she came up to me and introduced herself. seems like a very nice lady and i think its great that she sits and watches you play. i wish my mom was here to do that. enjoy her, and wish her a great 2012 . i wish you the same. tk
01-01-2012 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cuddlesgeage
i would think the bellagio would want to preserve their reputation as the best room in vegas, but i certainly don't have a good impression of it right now.
LOL, it's been many years since they've had that reputation, if they ever had it in the first place.
01-01-2012 , 06:16 PM
swear to God, last night i get to the card room,
they start a new game,
we draw for the button.
It's a Kem deck.
I look for the most bowed card.
I chose it, peek to see if it's the A spades,
and then I slow rolled everyone with it.
that Jimmy, a freak and a weird, yet very preceptive young dude.

      
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