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06-04-2013 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by purplebliss
This thread is not about me or other threads or anything else. Get that thru your head. It's a pure rules questions thread. If you want a thread about me go ahead and start it. Your posts in this thread have been malicious, irrelevant, condescending and disruptive and taking away from the value of the thread and the forum in general. Get off your high horse and leave me alone.
Was your last thread also just a rules question thread?
06-04-2013 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Was your last thread also just a rules question thread?
Since you refuse to stop, I added you to my Ignore List and reported your behavior in this thread to the mods. You left me no other choice really. If anyone else feels the compulsion to harass me, PM me and I'll add you to my Ignore List as well.

Last edited by purplebliss; 06-04-2013 at 11:35 PM.
06-05-2013 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by purplebliss
Since you refuse to stop, I added you to my Ignore List and reported your behavior in this thread to the mods. You left me no other choice really. If anyone else feels the compulsion to harass me, PM me and I'll add you to my Ignore List as well.
"Please stop him from asking so many insulting questions!"
06-05-2013 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
And then, as your opponent sits there shuffling his two cards hoping they magically change, think about what you're going to do UTG next hand.
Nicely played! Never mind "nh"; I'm the crowd applauding after Fischer beat Spaski in 1972.

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Originally Posted by lawdude
Actually, the ONE situation where this isn't true is where you are an all-in player and there is a side pot. Then, let the side pot people show first.
Definitely! Can't stress this enough. DON'T SHOW YOUR ALL-IN HAND UNTIL AFTER ANY SIDE POTS NOT INVOLVING YOU ARE RESOLVED!

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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
They may be valid questions, but they're definitely questions posted 100000x before and easily searchable. Just sayin'. Your snippy attitude is the reason you get some of the responses you do. Also, just sayin'.
In fairness, I think the all-in nuance probably means this hasn't been posted 100kx. But yeah, defensiveness is never the way to learn from adjusting feedback. We (collectively) could probably learn to be more diplomatic at times, but it's not our job to convince you if you're so stubborn that you're just posting to fish for agreement.
06-05-2013 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pokertaxer
The biggest problem with the first off the button rule in limit holdem occurs on the turn. A common situation in limit holdem is for the in position player to raise light on the turn to 1) get medium strength hands to fold and 2) to get a "free" river showdown in the sense that if you improve you have the option to bet again, or otherwise just check it down. The important thing that occurs is that the turn raiser being in position never shows his cards if he is the loser. After a while this tends to annoy people.
It's not really clear why this is a problem. We all have the same opportunity to play button hands. Flynn et al even mention this as additional value for button hands in their first NL book.

I don't care which rule is in use. I can attest that Seattle it seems to be the same as the Bay Area, by position.
06-05-2013 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by purplebliss
Certain people coming into a thread with the sole intention to belittle the OP and to drivel up the thread with irrelevant garbage is absolutely pathetic. They know who they are and they should be ashamed of themselves. There's no excuse for such behavior. Such malicious behavior only takes away from the forum they claim to care about.
My point was that there is a search function, and the forum I care about is already flooded with basic questions. Rather than spoon feeding you all the answers you want by being your personal google-search, I was suggesting that you learn how to use the search function so that you might find things quickly and more efficiently. There are already many threads that are several posts long with fully flushed out discussions on many basic topics. Maybe instead of thinking about it as me attacking you personally (or whatever), you should think that maybe it would be a good idea to find all the information you're looking for all at once instead of waiting for weeks upon weeks for a decent discussion to cover all the points that have already been covered 100x before.

Look what I found in about 15 seconds of searching the B&M forum:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...hread-1263877/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...wdown-1256347/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...first-1259685/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...advice-105562/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...wdown-1163818/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...first-1097442/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...first-1033744/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...-first-945757/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...ow-1-a-923207/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...-first-692440/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...x-hand-714740/



You're welcome.
06-05-2013 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
My point was that there is a search function, and the forum I care about is already flooded with basic questions. Rather than spoon feeding you all the answers you want by being your personal google-search, I was suggesting that you learn how to use the search function so that you might find things quickly and more efficiently. There are already many threads that are several posts long with fully flushed out discussions on many basic topics. Maybe instead of thinking about it as me attacking you personally (or whatever), you should think that maybe it would be a good idea to find all the information you're looking for all at once instead of waiting for weeks upon weeks for a decent discussion to cover all the points that have already been covered 100x before.

Look what I found in about 15 seconds of searching the B&M forum:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...hread-1263877/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...wdown-1256347/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...first-1259685/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...advice-105562/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...wdown-1163818/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...first-1097442/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...first-1033744/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...-first-945757/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...ow-1-a-923207/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...-first-692440/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...x-hand-714740/



You're welcome.
My questions in this thread are rather specific and describe very specific situations and are not covered by the above threads. Your comment about being able to find the answer to my questions in this thread by using Search is simply false. And even if by some chance it could be uncovered by Search function, there's nothing wrong with asking a question about a specific (not general) example or situation. And even if someone happened to ask the exact question that's been asked before - that is NOTHING compared to coming into to a thread to harass the OP and disrupt the thread.

And no, you're not going to get a thank you for making an unhelpful and false comment that added NO VALUE to this thread and only detracted value from it. And no one appointed you as thread police anyway. The time to talk down to me and abuse me is over. I won't take this condescending BS not from you not from anyone else. You and a couple of others have an axe to grind with me. I'm here to learn and help others. I don't need none of that negativity.

You're welcome. To my Ignore.

Last edited by purplebliss; 06-05-2013 at 08:23 AM.
06-05-2013 , 08:47 AM
I want to thank all of the people who constructively contributed to this thread - all 6 of you. Special thank you to pokertaxer whose experience and knowledge is very impressive. The 3 others who were being disruptive/leeching away value from the thread are now in my Ignore. The thread has been viewed 650 times so obviously it's of interest to someone and is helping someone out there. I know it definitely helped me (regardless of the disruptions).

Hopefully, we can now continue a high-quality discussion in peace.
06-05-2013 , 08:59 AM
You want a real answer to your real question? Ask the floor at the place you play. It may vary from place to place. Other than that, the first four posts of this thread cover all the answer that's needed. I'm not sure if there can be much more high-quality discussion beyond that.
06-05-2013 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by purplebliss
Hopefully, we can now continue a high-quality discussion in peace.
I don't understand what kind of "high quality" discussion you're seeking. Your questions were answered by Angus exactly six minutes after you posted your OP last week. And although house rules in a few places may state otherwise, Angus's answers hold true in the vast majority of rooms.

So, again, what more is there to discuss?
06-05-2013 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
So, again, what more is there to discuss?
Well, we could find out why he cares because the real answer is, except for that the side pot goes first, just turn your hand over. In fact, I already asked (nicely I thought)
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Originally Posted by Didace
Why do you care? Serious question.
but he didn't want to answer.
06-05-2013 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by purplebliss
You're welcome. To my Ignore.
As you may have figured out by now, Ignore does not affect the ignored.

So telling someone you've Ignored them is like telling them you're not reading their posts any more - it's pointless to point out.
06-05-2013 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
I don't understand what kind of "high quality" discussion you're seeking. Your questions were answered by Angus exactly six minutes after you posted your OP last week. And although house rules in a few places may state otherwise, Angus's answers hold true in the vast majority of rooms.

So, again, what more is there to discuss?
Angus's contribution is constructive, and I thank him for that. Yet, if you read the whole thread you will see that it's not the whole picture. I myself played in a West Coast room where the order for one of the situations I described is different from what Angus described. According to pokertaxer on the East Coast the rules are completely different compared to what Angus described, etc. Anyway, I meant that if anyone wants to add something relevant and constructive to the actual subject matter of the thread - I welcome that. If no one else wants to add anything further, that's OK with me.
06-05-2013 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by purplebliss
if anyone wants to add something relevant and constructive to the actual subject matter of the thread - I welcome that.
The "actual" subject matter of the thread constitutes the entirety of the criticisms leveled against you.

It's like showing up at the ER every weekend with a gunshot wound and then yelling at the doctor when he asks you why you get shot so often.

"Can we please just stick to the subject, doc? I just want to know about the physiology of getting shot."
06-06-2013 , 06:41 AM
TTHRIC.

locked.

      
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