this is worse than when someone accidentally exposes their hand prematurely and gets a one round penalty. the dude cheated. easy penalty, a warning literally does nothing this late in the MTT. pfapfap are you serious with "the dude already saw the important card"? wtf

Change your thread title to:

BORGATA TD RAPED ME. IF YOU DONT AGREE, DONT REPLY.

I mean I was really just looking for one person to write something like this. Haha I figured this would be the consensus thought. Lol

Not at all. I just want people who don't agree with me to say. Wow this kid did something wrong but it doesn't warrant a penalty not "you asked for it, other guy is genius for blowing card over."

Yet you flip out when we say a warning was appropriate.

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OP, when I suggested it was your fault that the card ended up getting blown over, it was in the context of he made two previous attempts to do it, you saw them, and each time said nothing at all to him nor took any action to protect your cards. i thought that was a bit odd. especially as you stated that you belive significant damage would be done to you if the card Got flipped. But yet you did nothing. If someone shoots a gun at you twice and misses, most would at least try and grab the gun or run away before he shoots a third time, yet you just stood there.

But after reading your subsequent posts, it sounds more like you really wanted him to succeed, so you could then try and get him a round penalty and improve your position. Then, when the TD didn't fall for your angle attempt, and just gave him a warning, you got upset. Now you're angry that people here aren't supporting you.

It's like you're saying "I could've been killed!" but people are going if that's true, why didn't you duck or try andgrab the gun after the first and second shot Instead it looks like you're trying to get a large penalty or a minor crime that you easily could have prevented.

Lol /thread.

Just stop please. What did I get myself into. Lol

Before you leave this thread why don't you humor us and explain why you said and did nothing after the guy took a deep breath, blew at your card; failed to flip it, so he tried again, and failed again? It does seem strange

^ would be interesting to hear the answer but unfortunately OP seems incapable of comprehending anything other than 100% agreement with his own opinions.

Yep you guys caught me. Nicely done... I let the kid blow my card over just so I could make. Thread about it on 2p2 and have people constantly tell me that it's a moot act and it changes nothing. IT WAS THE PERFECT PLAN!!!

It wasn't three separate breaths it was one breathe and 3 blows which can happen pretty quickly. You're also completely missing the point it's not about whether I attempted to stop him or not (which I obviously did) but that his acts were just not ok. Now I just feel dumb for responding to you trolls and this is probably my last post in this thread and mortar and brick for that matter forever. You guys make nvg look like the backgammon section.

Yesterday:

This morning:

A few hours later:

And a few hours after that:

Can't wait for your next last post forever.

Well, for one thing I tend to eschew polarized logical leaps. So there's that.

It's like you're not speaking the same language as practically everybody else in the thread. Yes, we agree he shouldn't have done it. Yes, we agree a warning is warranted. And yes, we feel that you opened the door and that you could have better protected yourself.

It's your choice to allow yourself to become so irrationally and extremely upset at a very crucial time in a tournament. I personally feel that allowing yourself to feel that way works against the larger goal of winning the tournament. It seems you disagree.

You're only a victim in this situation if you allow yourself to be one.

He did something wrong. It's not really a big deal... I think this happened to me once and the guy said sorry I didn't actually think that'd work was just joking and I just laughed and moved on. Ur doing something more wrong by not letting stuff go/being kinda a dbag. U obviously made this post to get comformation of how awful a ruling this is (it's not) and how bad/corrupt borgata is (they're not) based off ur reaction to people's responses. It didn't work now u just look like a complete tool. Let it go move on.

If the guy had done other angles then obv this is different but in the context he seemed friendly and a warning is definitely sufficient for such a small thing...

The question was, "Should I be pissed?"

The answer is, "No."

Now you're pissed about the answer.

Looks from here like you really want to be pissed, one way or another.

Well, I think everyone's being a little too harsh, especially for a first-time poster. The opponent's conduct was pretty much cheating, since everyone knows you don't reach into the muck to look at your opponent's cards. Functionally it matters not whether he did it with his hand or with his breath. I'd probably give him a warning and then a hair-trigger one round on the next offense.

But I see why everyone's saying you put yourself in a situation to create conflict, too. If you think you get an advantage from showing the ace, fine, but stop the Hollywooding and taunting.

And why on earth isn't the dealer taking your cards immediately after awarding you the pot?! Sounds like the opposite of Seattle, where they tend to grab cards way too quickly (i.e., before pushing the pot).

Big Bad Wolf huffs and puffs and blows Little Piggy's card over ...

Piggy wants BBW boiled in oil. TD F. Leghorn sez "Not so fast sonny, I say, a mere warning should suffice to educate our lupine friend here as to the error of his ways."

Piggy does a Taz imitation.

Just Looney.

SBlum2711, have you played in live tournaments before? I'm thinking that you could get some coaching from these forums to help you deal with these situations. In particular, it could help you avoid this kind of tilt. When you understand that this situation doesn't effect the outcome of the tournament, it will be an aid for focusing on the things that matter. That's where your attention needs to be, not on the show-one-card sideshow/angle. If you think about it a bit, you'll see the truth in this.

I think the person who blew the card over played it BRILLIANTLY! First, you got so butthurt over the incident that you probably lost the tournament a couple of hands later. Second, he was probably just screwing around. I'm trying to imagine a situation where a dealer sees a player blow on cards repeatedly and does nothing.

What everyone seems to be trying to tell you is that in the world of horrible things that players do, this really is way down the list. The infraction is pretty meaningless. So, short of you trying to punish this guy for what very likely was "screwing around", the whole incident is silly. The fact that you got uber-tilted by it is sheer gold and you got outplayed.

Of course, because you are only accepting of posts that affirm your preconceived beliefs. Your overreaction to these responses gives us a clear understanding of who you have to be to react the way you did to having your card exposed.

And this little piggy cried wee wee wee all the way home.

I think the player should have received a penalty.

I also think, from the way you described the incident and have responded to others ITT, that you have a way of coming across as a jerk and that may have influenced the ruling.

For the love of god can a mod end this thread.

Well, you don't seem to be able to end this thread any more than you were able to stop villain from exposing your card.

And why is the title of this thread "Should I be pissed about this Borgata ruling?" You are pissed about the ruling. You're also pissed at anyone in this thread who tries to offer help. Why are you asking if you should be pissed? Are you trying to find out if you are emotionally insane?

So the answer to your question IMO is no. It does no good to be pissed about the Borgota ruling. I think it makes no sense to actively harbor resentments over things you have no control over. Its like watching baseball players get repeatedly upset at ball/strike rulings even though they are consistent.

Villain in your story could have gotten a one round penalty. Or even a one hand penalty. And it would have been deserved. But more important is what you have learned from all of this that will help you in future tournaments.

I have had players turn over my hand in both tourneys and cash games. They got warned. In the moment it is infuriating - I feel violated. And nothing commensurate with "the crime" is being done about it. But I have learned to not focus on that because it will distract me from the task at hand. And TBH I don't remember who did it anymore. Which tells me that I have successfully let it go.

Also, you might consider looking at your part in it. You act like a victim but you started it by taunting the other player. I always believe that if I dish it out, then I have to take it. It seems unfair that your other card got exposed but now you know the penalty for someone doing it. Is it worth trying to tilt somebody when you face a higher risk of having your hand exposed? Thats the question I would answer before doing it again...

You are the one who was looking at the table wrong I think. I was in the 1 seat (exactly to the left of the dealer). My bust out hand was when I shoved from the button with Q9 and got called by KT from SB. Bring a bell?

No I was 100% in the one seat at this table the entire time and when this incident happened. I feel like I'm in shutter island in this thread or something. Haha

The answer to this question is yes, a mod can.

However, I'm going to do a favor for you. This thread ceases to exist for you when you no longer look for it. It won't matter to you what people post. You won't see it or know it.

With this lesson learned, you'll then work on getting over things like this thread, someone turning over your card, etc. and not get punished as harshly as you want faster. Once you ignore them, they won't bother you. And by recovering from tilt faster (or not tilting at all), you'll be end up with better results at the poker table.

Do this and you'll realize in a year's time that you've had one of the most valuable poker lessons of your life. And it cost you nothing.

One last thought. You tried to "level" the villain by showing. Instead, he has tilted you for days. Who won that battle?