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How much should I tip the poker dealers if I win $3000 in a poker tournament?
Here's is a little more information:
Buyin is $200
$25 will be withheld for entry fees
$7 will be withheld for the staff
3% of the prizepool will be withheld for tournament staff

Anyway my main questions are how much should you tip after winning $3000 in a poker tournament?
How many places down would you still tip? 4th or 5th place? Is it usually the top 3 who should be doing the tipping since the are winning the majority? Would you tip if you won $400? (200 profit after your buyin.) Also should I tip the tournament staff as well or is that included when tipping the dealers?

What if you win $3000, $30,000, or $300,000?

It is a completely subjective answer. Only you can decide on the right amount.

$150, $600, $3000.

Double dip?

If they are taking $13 out of $175 for the staff, then I would not tip anything, even for first.

To keep things in perspective, try to "undo" the math of the $7 withheld for staff and 3% of the prize pool (I'm assuming remaining prize pool after $25 fee and $7 for staff are taken out, so 3% of $168). That 3% is about $5 per buy-in.

So, in all, about $12 out of each $200 is taken out for staff bonuses. That's about 6% of the $200 or 7% of the $175, depending on how you want to look at it. I'll split the difference here to keep things simple. Of the money that each player paid as a buy-in, minus the entry fee, 6.5% went toward staff bonuses. That means that the prizes, when considered proportionally, are only 93.5% of what they "should" be. To put that in dollars and cents:

0.935x = 3,000
x = 3,000 ÷ 0.935
x = about $3,208.56

So, from your prize, you've already "tipped" about 6.5%, or a little over $200. If you'd want to tip more than $200 from a $3,200 prize, then by all means, tip more. It's a subjective issue, as andrewga said.

Personally, I'd say that this is already quite enough. This is a poker tournament, not a restaurant where you're expected to drop 15% or more. From what I've read around here, 5% is typically considered sufficient. Take that together with the fact that I resent being subjected to involuntary "tips," and I think I'd just pocket the whole $3,000.

TLDR:

And the criminal part is that in many rooms, of the $13 or so taken out for the "staff", very little gets to the dealers. While the TD ends up playing 10/20 NL after every tournament.

But that is the dealers' battle to fight, not mine.

Yup. Not my problem or your problem. Our money has already been taken from us. Mandatory "tips" may guarantee a certain take, but they don't guarantee anything in the way of fairness.

This is correct. It's a completely personal decision.
But if you disagree with me, you're a jerk.
(Above is the essence of the Tipping Containment Thread in B&M, which has >4300 posts to date and boils down to the above.)

There is a total rake of $32 and $168 goes to the prizepool

So, they take 3% from the $168?

is it ok to post web links on here?

If it's not spam, porn, etc. Use common sense

Okay scroll down to the bottom of this website it is on there.

http://www.horseshoecouncilbluffs.co...-Lo%20HPC1.pdf

So $7 to staff.
And then another $5.04 to the staff.

$12.04 to the staff. That is 6% of the buyin

Covers the staff. IMHO, covers them totally. I would not tip anything, even for first.

If you feel differently, fine. Tip what you think is right.

here is a different link for the same tournament but it doesnt say anything about the 3%

http://www.pokeratlas.com/poker-tour...rseshoe-casino

where are you getting $5.04 from?

(Buyin - EntryFee - StaffFee) = PrizePool

PrizePool * 0.03 = SecondStaffFee

And the second link is not to the tournament site, ie it is worthless. Try telling the Horseshoe "Well, this is what it says on pokeratlas".

$162.96 of the $200 is what the players are playing for is that correct?

True +1

From their flyer, yes.

Thanks! Would you tip on a $3000 win?

Been there, answered that...

You're in the wrong place. See the tipping thread in B&M.

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