4/8 isn't quite as hard to beat as people are making it out to be here. Most of the players are incredibly bad. Yes, there's rake. But the rake you pay is roughly proportional to your VP$IP. So tighten up some from the standard opening play and let everyone else pay the rake.

No one should try to make a living at 4/8, but if you can't beat it you sure as hell shouldn't be playing 10/20+. It's a perfectly good training ground for general poker skills.

I dont think anyone said its hard to beat, I think its more of that should not be your daily job, which he said he'd still have another.

I think you should reevaluate why as a break even player you think you will or should be beating higher stakes ?
The first thing i would do is get a poker journal/ some app To keep track if your money/time/expenses/food/tips all the factors because even if you really break even at the table you are losing as you have $1> an hour of pay and u need to get to these casinos, buy food, drinks. If you play 6 hours a night and eat one meal tip for 3 drinks and pay for gas to get there and home that means you won $0 an hour while losing 16-25 for the trip

I'm saying it's hard to beat. I doubt even 10% of people would be winners long term playing 4/8 LHE, and almost everyone that makes up the 10% would be winning at a rate below $5 hourly. The rake and tips simply destroy you too much for the game to be profitable no matter how well you play.

I've had a much harder time trying to beat 4/8 than I did trying to beat 1-2 NL, and I think I'm clearly better at limit than I am at NL.

I think 4/8 would have more variance than 1-2 NL. And in my opinion, 4/8 is hard to beat.

You'd be far better off buying in for the minimum in NL games and trying to use a super nitty short stack strategy whenever you can. I don't think you should do this though, unless you're starting out or can't beat NL games.

LLHE would honestly be terrible for learning hand reading. The size of the pot often makes it proper to call down with all sorts of unlikely draws + weak TP (or even middle pair if the opponent is aggressive enough) sort of hands. So there's very little to really read.

That said, someone playing in a casino for the first time or just learning poker should probably be playing the lowest limit game there is until they get a hang of the action.

It is both. Maybe it can be beat in the long run but the amount is so small and the variance so great that it would be ridiculous. Even if a player could show that they were 95% confident that they were a 1BB/hour winner, there would be so many better ways to earn equivalent money.

If you want to play bigger games I would earn a bankroll for the bigger games from other sources and focus on studying really hard before sitting in those games.