3rd: xx2 bi, I complete (25)Q, bi calls
4th: I check (25)Q4o, xx27o bets, I call
5th: xx27Qr bets, I call (25)Q43 (now with 3 diamonds)
6th: xx27Q6r bets, I call (25)Q439
7th: xx27Q6x bets, hero with (25)Q439(4)?
Result:
Spoiler:
I called and chopped with A3T in the hole (shuffled)
I disagree with a raise on 5th. There are a lot of cards you can catch that don't materially improve your hand but make you high board on Six, and then you have to act first. It's always better to make semi-bluff equity raises when you can't fall out of position without improving your hand enough to want to bet it.
If you have a hand like that, say you have precisely the same hand but villain is showing a King instead of a Queen for high board, then almost any card that makes you high also gives you a reason to bet. If you don't fall high you can just take a free card on Six and get to see the river for nothing, but when you improve you can rep a stronger range by leading with initiative.
I think just calling down, calling with a small pair on the end are fine. You're not going to get him to fold any low hand with a Queen flapping in the breeze so there's no reason to bluff raise.
I disagree with a raise on 5th. There are a lot of cards you can catch that don't materially improve your hand but make you high board on Six, and then you have to act first. It's always better to make semi-bluff equity raises when you can't fall out of position without improving your hand enough to want to bet it.
If you have a hand like that, say you have precisely the same hand but villain is showing a King instead of a Queen for high board, then almost any card that makes you high also gives you a reason to bet. If you don't fall high you can just take a free card on Six and get to see the river for nothing, but when you improve you can rep a stronger range by leading with initiative.
I think just calling down, calling with a small pair on the end are fine. You're not going to get him to fold any low hand with a Queen flapping in the breeze so there's no reason to bluff raise.
His most likely hand is a shitty low draw and no high and you want to set him up to fold his half.
His most likely hand is a shitty low draw and no high and you want to set him up to fold his half.
Whatever it is, he called the open and has been betting every street. He's not folding it to a raise, and he's not folding it if you raise and bet one more street. For a credible value line, you'll need to raise and commit to betting turn and river, and the only hands you're getting him to fold are a couple of slightly-better no-pair hands. Definitely not worth burning them up.
Whatever it is, he called the open and has been betting every street. He's not folding it to a raise, and he's not folding it if you raise and bet one more street. For a credible value line, you'll need to raise and commit to betting turn and river, and the only hands you're getting him to fold are a couple of slightly-better no-pair hands. Definitely not worth burning them up.
Almost every card is good for our hand. We are drawing smooth for a low and almost any card gives us a great high versus his range.
Almost every card is good for our hand. We are drawing smooth for a low and almost any card gives us a great high versus his range.
Sorry, you are nuts. We end up with some crappy no-pair or a tiny pair most of the time for hi, and a lot of the hands we need to call will get scooped. I'm not making a bigger pot here just for the fun of saying "raise."
Couldn't disagree with you more, electrical. This is a slam-dunk raise on 5. Remember that this hand started HU and he didn't 2b pre. His range is not all that strong and we have 2345. Sure it sucks when we catch a king on 6, but this isn't stud hi, either; if only one of you catches good on 6, initiative from 5 won't matter anyway
I disagree with a raise on 5th. There are a lot of cards you can catch that don't materially improve your hand but make you high board on Six, and then you have to act first. It's always better to make semi-bluff equity raises when you can't fall out of position without improving your hand enough to want to bet it.
If you have a hand like that, say you have precisely the same hand but villain is showing a King instead of a Queen for high board, then almost any card that makes you high also gives you a reason to bet. If you don't fall high you can just take a free card on Six and get to see the river for nothing, but when you improve you can rep a stronger range by leading with initiative.
I think just calling down, calling with a small pair on the end are fine. You're not going to get him to fold any low hand with a Queen flapping in the breeze so there's no reason to bluff raise.
Any card ace through 8 gives you a pair a straight or a low, all of which is likely good for half. Q is good too. Only bad cards are 9tj. I’m always looking for ways to win the whole pot and clicking call call is just hoping to hit to win.
I just ran it on PPT, very surprised to see we are hovering around 60-65% with most of villain's holdings. My instincts were off, sorry. Raise away.
Ace: great card. Six: Great card. Seven: Great card. Queen: pretty good card. Anything else is either a drag or nothing to write home about, but we don't need that much to have a riase HU.
I disagree with a raise on 5th. There are a lot of cards you can catch that don't materially improve your hand but make you high board on Six, and then you have to act first. It's always better to make semi-bluff equity raises when you can't fall out of position without improving your hand enough to want to bet it.
If you have a hand like that, say you have precisely the same hand but villain is showing a King instead of a Queen for high board, then almost any card that makes you high also gives you a reason to bet. If you don't fall high you can just take a free card on Six and get to see the river for nothing, but when you improve you can rep a stronger range by leading with initiative.
I think just calling down, calling with a small pair on the end are fine. You're not going to get him to fold any low hand with a Queen flapping in the breeze so there's no reason to bluff raise.
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Originally Posted by electrical
I just ran it on PPT, very surprised to see we are hovering around 60-65% with most of villain's holdings. My instincts were off, sorry. Raise away.
Ace: great card. Six: Great card. Seven: Great card. Queen: pretty good card. Anything else is either a drag or nothing to write home about, but we don't need that much to have a riase HU.
I raise 5th but I thought your first comment was pure genius. Our hand is just too strong to risk getting stuck by giving up shape on 6th. In this case we had the numbers, but it's always something to think about in these situations.
As played this is definitely a raise on 5th but I'm surprised no one has suggested check/fold on 4th. The pot is small and this hand can become problematic quickly. The steal on 3rd is questionable too, but can be fine depending on the opponent. Keep in mind that once he realizes you are playing this loose you will likely be punished.
bi, I complete (2
5
)Q
