7 Card Stud High-Low ($0,25/$0,50), Ante $0,05, Bring-In $0,10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6___folds
Hero: J J 9___raises
Seat 3: xx xx 5___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4___brings-in___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 4___folds

4th Street - (6.40 SB)

Hero: J J 9 J___bets
Seat 3: xx xx 5 2___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7 9___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 4 2___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9 8___calls

5th Street - (5.20 BB)

Hero: J J 9 J Q___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 5 2 K___checks___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4 2 Q___bets
Seat 6: xx xx 9 8 T___calls

6th Street - (9.20 BB)

Hero: J J 9 J Q Q___bets
Seat 3: xx xx 5 2 K A___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4 2 Q 6___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9 8 T K___calls

River - (13.20 BB)

Hero: J J 9 J Q Q T___bets
Seat 3: xx xx 5 2 K A xx___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4 2 Q 6 xx___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9 8 T K xx___folds

Total pot: (16.20 BB)


hey
i think this fairly standard, the only question i have is on 5th:
if i raise i probably loose a bet(or more) from seat3(because he would most likely fold to a raise on 5th) but i guess get a bet more from the other 2 seats.
if i just call i get more money from seat3 ....

as i'm typing this i don't see any reason not to raise because it increases my chances to scoop.....

correct?

I think the only guy plausibly going the same direction is you is 6. The other 2 are fighting for low, and they arent folding to a reraise. You have to jam 5th here hard to build up the pot.

the call on 5th makes me cry

seat 5 and 3 probably have low draws that they are never ever folding. seat 6 prob has some pair plus gutshot that he miiight fold but either way you def want to charge the low draws the maximum.

You've got a sucky brick pair in the hole, and your kicker is dead. Why are you playing this hand in the first place?

That said, the hand plays itself from fourth street on -- except that just calling on fifth street makes the baby Jesus cry.

I think playing for a limp on 3d is fine so long as you have the discipline to fold 4th if/when things look bad. But when you hit your trip card, you really really really have to make the lows pay to hang in there with each other.

I fold third if I'm playing at least my "B" game. Failure to raise fifth is in crime-against-humanity territory. Really, once you hit your set, keep your foot to the gas until someone gives you a reason not to. Nice hand.

Laying down this hand makes the baby Jesus puke !

Pocket Jacks! Emminently playable!

Still , Jam every street until somebody's board shows quads !

with regard to third, i think it is def a raise. having the 9 dead isn't too bad, especially when the guy limping is most likely way behind for high.

JJ9 is a money-loser. JJ is marginally playable if it has a live, low kicker, but you aren't giving up much if you never play it except in special situations. OP's hand isn't a special situation.

meh i hate generalizations like "JJ9 is a money-loser." it's just not true if you can play it well and in the right situations. with an inferior high hand limping in and only 3 low cards behind us and no ace, i think this is a perfect spot to complete.

Third is a playable hand, especially with the 2-flush, and only one spade dead. You've also got a weaker high in front of you as the only person in. Easy raise - better high is the best spot you get in this game. The only exceptions are if you've got several very tough, aggressive opponents behind you with live babies. I'd take my chances here, except in the toughest games. Even so, I'm ready to get out if things don't come out well and I'm against a few low draws.

Failure to jam 5th is, as others have said, a crime against humanity. Multiple lows drawing, I have a monster for high = jam!

Umm, no.

Best spot you get in this game is a made low with scoop outs versus two one-way high hands, one of whom is jamming back at you.


Raising here is a no-brainer with aces. With kings you're in good-but-not-great shape (raise). QQ is close to breakeven (but raise). JJ, though, is a sucker hand. If even one of the low hands yet to act trails in, you're hosed.

i am surprised that people find it weird that i played JJ9 since this is straight out of zee (category No. 6 "the best high hand on board"). if another jack or a 9 were dead i wouldn't have played this either.

I used to think that, too, until Poker Tracker told me what a loser it was.

Its a loser if you play it hard against boards that show good lows with connectiveness or a high that catches a Q or K. If you can fold it before you hit 6th in the wrong spot, its less dangerous. If you play it like KK you are going to be in a heap of trouble. Liveness is obviously Excessively important here. He was live and it (should) have paid off big time.

In a higher stakes game with one fewer low card behind me, I think raising is fine. I would want to play this heads-up against a Nine. At this level, I think that thinking that you might get it heads-up is overly optimistic.

even if i don't get this heads-up, live pairs are what you want in family pots since you will often *need* a full house to win high (because someone stumbled into a flush and whatnot)
i usually get away from this hand if one more of my cards becomes dead on 4th or if i brick both 4th and 5th

If I have a pair, live or not, I'm not looking for a family pot, especially if that pair is Jacks. If you need a full house to win, starting with a pair is suicidal.

what?

I would never in a million years fold this on 3rd.

-ChipsAhoya