Do we call this last bet?

Comments on other streets appreciated. I have played some stud, not much.

PokerStars Hand #230186314470: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2021/09/28 0:40:47 CET [2021/09/27 18:40:47 ET]
Table 'Polana' 8-max
Seat 1: Villain4 ($143.28 in chips)
Seat 2: Villain2 ($17.51 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($76.64 in chips)
Seat 7: Villain3 ($61.33 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($79.63 in chips)
Villain4: posts the ante $0.45
Villain2: posts the ante $0.45
Villain: posts the ante $0.45
Villain3: posts the ante $0.45
Hero: posts the ante $0.45
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Villain4 [9h]
Dealt to Villain2 [Jd]
Dealt to Villain [2d]
Dealt to Villain3 [5h]
Dealt to Hero [7c 8c 5c]
Villain: brings in for $1
Villain3: folds
Hero: raises $2 to $3
Villain4: folds
Villain2: calls $3
Villain: calls $2
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Villain2 [Jd] [Js]
Dealt to Villain [2d] [7d]
Dealt to Hero [7c 8c 5c] [4d]
Villain2: bets $3
Villain: calls $3
Hero: raises $3 to $6
Villain2: calls $3
Villain: calls $3
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Villain2 [Jd Js] [8s]
Dealt to Villain [2d 7d] [Kh]
Dealt to Hero [7c 8c 5c 4d] [4s]
Villain2: bets $6
Villain: calls $6
Hero: raises $6 to $12
Villain2: calls $2.06 and is all-in
Villain: calls $6
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Villain2 [Jd Js 8s] [2s]
Dealt to Villain [2 7 K] [6]
Dealt to Hero [7c 8c 5c 4d 4s] [Qd]
Villain: checks
Hero: checks
*** RIVER *** (Pot 59)
Dealt to Hero 7 8 5 4 4 Q [2]
Villain : bets $6
Hero: ?

4th street i just want to call.

against JJ and 27dd boards, your actual hand is unlikely to be pushing any equity. a raise isn't gonna make anyone fold so you're just bloating the pot with a bad low draw and a gutshot. even though JJ didn't reraise pre (meaning less trip jacks or 2p) and 27dd didn't raise after JJ's lead (meaning both opponents have some weaker ranges), your hand is lacking in strength. not sure if your intention is to look strong or you think they're being weak, but i think in this spot and many others like it, when you're on a middling draw, just draw for cheap.

on 6th villain checks on a pretty good card for him and based off of earlier play, kinda adds up to him not having a whole lot to begin with. so you are literally calling here 100% of the time.

River doesn't matter. What matters here is 4th street. This raise is a catastrophe.

Thanks.

More comments here than in Omaha lol.

Was a bit overagressive in this hand after being up. Also switched from razz to stud hi lo so might have overvalued my low draw.

Folded 7th so apperently should have called.

Villain showed flush with no low so had ended up with half the pot.

Understatement even.

You have a solid hand, but your hand is the most likely to be in the middle in a big pot if you all make your hands.

Your raise on fifth is worse. When JJ bets, they don't believe you have a full house here. One more bet won't convince him.

Calling the river is a no brainer. To beat you your opponent has to have a better low while also pairing their 7 or 6 or have 55 or AA in the hole, and he certainly didn't play it as AA. Yes, you are probably dead for the whole pot, but you shouldn't be losing on the sidepot and sometimes Villain will surprise you by showing KKK or KK7 or 77x in the hole and you will get half the pot.

5th is definitely not worse and is probably correct. He builds a side pot with the best hand.

5th makes tons of sense to build the side pot. hard to assign 27ddK a strong range with how he's played so far. there's no way it's worse than 4th

Yes, fifth isn't worse than 4th given the stack sizes.

Thanks again for all the comments. To me it really looked like villain couldn't have the high and couldn't bluff because of the all in player so he was betting for low.

But with 10:1 it would have been better to call as you all suggested.

Also villain betting on 4th on 2 diamonds might mean he is having 4 flush so that makes sense.

Would be good to try to improve my stud game. Unfortunately there are usually not many games going on but it has some benefits over Holdem and Omaha as it is instant play, with antes to induce action and the limit variant makes play more attractive than in the other variants where you can just wait for the nuts all the time and then go all in.

in general if you're getting 10-1 and you either made your primary draw or you missed your primary draw but have some sort of reasonable showdown value, you should call

to me this is kinda like o8 and you having A6 on a 35Khh T4h board where you bet flop and turn and he called, the river was a flush, and you check/folded because "oh i guess he must have a wheel", and there are 10 big bets in the pot. well, he could have a flush or he could have 26/67 or he could have A6. and pot's big so you call, right?

like, also the other thing about this is what you just said "looked like villain couldn't have high". but you have 44, so if he has the low then you get half. and if he has high you get half cause you have low. like imagine that there were 5 extra big bets in the pot just between you and him after JJ had gone all in. folding not keeping in mind you have the pair of 4's would be extremely bad.

Well true lol i would have at least gotten the last bet back so must call