stud 8: raise 4th 3-way vs 2 high hands or wait?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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6-handed. 4/8, $1 antes.
345r dealt to me, i bring in.
J folds T folds
K completes
Q calls
6 folds
I debate raising here but I believe the K will re-raise the Q out putting us into a HU situation. Pretty sure i wanna go 3-way with a wheel draw, yes?
I call.
JT6 dead.
(suits inconsequential)
xx|K7
xx|Q6
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K7 leads, Q6 calls.
I still believe that if i raise here, K7 will raise again and Q6 will fold.
I get a lot more value by just calling here and accruing the low side of the pot share and potentially hitting straights, right? Rather than raising?
PPT gives me like 43% or so against a couple generic ranges i plugged in 3-way, vs 50/50 or so HU (even with dead money in the pot). So i wonder if this is pretty much a slam dunk call or if there's something i'm missing. Again, assuming that me raising will eventually get the 3rd guy out.
Thanks!
Join Date: Apr 2008
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6,6,7 gone now and not great if it goes HU. I like call. If you had an ace down, I like raise.
Join Date: Oct 2007
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yeah i think those are influencing factors for sure.
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I'd save a raise until 5th or 6th street if you have a board lock low and you think both high hands are committed to the river.
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I think you guys are a bit too pessimistic. There's significant antes in there ($1 seems good sized to me but only six) and a bet from the queen to fight over should it get hu. But mostly I think the pessimism is in assuming the Q and K play perfectly against our hand/range whether mw or hu. As always, im happy to be shown differently.