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Stud 8 6th Street Spot Stud 8 6th Street Spot

08-14-2017 , 09:57 AM
15/30 with a 3 ante and 5 bring in. 7-handed

3rd

Villain 1 brings it in with 2 Q folds T folds Villain 2 looks like he wants to raise but limps 8 Villain 3 limps 5 I complete (A8)A; 4 folds. Rest call.

Villain 1 is solid TAG. Villain 2 is good tricky LAG. Villain 3 is the spot and does not fold or bluff.



4th

Me: (A8)A9 Check/Call
Villian1: (XX)26 Bet
Villain2: (XX)87 Call
Villain3: (XX)5J Call

5th

Me: (A8)A98 Bet
Villian1: (XX)26J Call
Villain2: (XX)874 Call
Villain3: (XX)5J6 Fold

6th

Me: (A8)A987 Check
Villian1: (XX)26J3 Bet
Villain2: (XX)8745 Raise
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08-14-2017 , 05:51 PM
I think you need at least trips here to call two bets. Decent chance of getting jammed on 6th and possibly 7th.
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08-14-2017 , 07:30 PM
My interpretation of third street is that he had low hearts and then noticed that two hearts were dead. Nobody tries to scare anyone with an 8 in S8. Eights are not very scary animals. So, V2 is not acting and it's genuine indecision.

It's hard to put V2 on less than a straight, even w/o the third street read. It's hard to put him on a 75 and a draw only since

1) You have the clubs
2) Without the straight V2 is possibly being freerolled on by V1, so V2 is being foolish re-opening the betting vs a possible 6 and hearts (or even a made flush).

The possibilities are practically only an 8 high straight w/ a draw to beat another low (or hoping V2 paired).

You have to hit an A (two aces), an 8 (one left, possibly none if original better had an 8 and I'm misreading), or a club (13-4-3=6), and it's all to get half the pot. You likely won't get creamed for more than 3 bets on 6th, and 1 bet on 7th as the pot is now massive. But damn, 3 bets in on what looks like a 7/2 outer. Not where I want to be.
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08-14-2017 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
My interpretation of third street is that he had low hearts and then noticed that two hearts were dead. Nobody tries to scare anyone with an 8 in S8. Eights are not very scary animals. So, V2 is not acting and it's genuine indecision.

It's hard to put V2 on less than a straight, even w/o the third street read. It's hard to put him on a 75 and a draw only since

1) You have the clubs
2) Without the straight V2 is possibly being freerolled on by V1, so V2 is being foolish re-opening the betting vs a possible 6 and hearts (or even a made flush).

The possibilities are practically only an 8 high straight w/ a draw to beat another low (or hoping V2 paired).

You have to hit an A (two aces), an 8 (one left, possibly none if original better had an 8 and I'm misreading), or a club (13-4-3=6), and it's all to get half the pot. You likely won't get creamed for more than 3 bets on 6th, and 1 bet on 7th as the pot is now massive. But damn, 3 bets in on what looks like a 7/2 outer. Not where I want to be.
I don't have a flush draw. If it matters, he tanked for a long while before raising sixth.
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08-14-2017 , 10:28 PM
Fifth, unless Villain 2 is a particular acupuncturist who might check behind, I c/r to knock out at least one of the other players.

Sixth, with two Sixes out and your hand slightly dead I think calling and folding are both fine, slightly prefer showing down vs this lineup. The tank is only relevant vs a particular lawyer/singer who generally tanks only with the nuts.

Even playing for half you have too much equity to fold on Six.
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08-14-2017 , 11:01 PM
Should have said you have enough equity to call Six, but not a sin to fold.
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08-15-2017 , 06:30 AM
6th is a really tough spot. With 2 dead sixes I guess i'm showing it down but I don't hate folding at all.

Having said that, the mistake in this hand is on 5. You should k/r the low board and try to get it at least 3-handed, if not HU.
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09-06-2017 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RolldUpTrips
Having said that, the mistake in this hand is on 5. You should k/r the low board and try to get it at least 3-handed, if not HU.
This.
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