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Old 04-17-2021, 01:11 AM   #1
Al Mirpuri
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Razz: Average Winning Hand?

Hi guys,

does anyone know what the average winning hand is in Razz?

Also, how is that known (software or author)?

Thanks in advance,

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Old 04-17-2021, 02:16 AM   #2
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Re: Razz: Average Winning Hand?

It depends
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Old 04-17-2021, 03:33 AM   #3
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Re: Razz: Average Winning Hand?

I am not sure this question has much sense as it depends on the board, practically also on number of players on the 4th street and so on. And are you interesting only on showdown wins.

If you ask about say 8 players with random any three cards to start go to showdown, there will be many r-r (runner-runner) and even r-r-r wins that will never be in the real game.

But at least to have some answer I would say 8 and post this result


http://propokertools.com

Razz, Classic syntax
PLAYER_1 86A43kk
PLAYER_2 457
PLAYER_3 a26
2600000 trials (randomized)


All-in Equity
 Equity %Wins Lo %Ties Lo %Wins Lo CountTies Lo Count 
86A43kk51,9137%51,9137%0,0000%13497570 
45718,5183%18,5061%0,0244%481158635 
a2629,5680%29,5558%0,0244%768450635 

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Old 04-17-2021, 06:55 PM   #4
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Re: Razz: Average Winning Hand?

@Fold&Forget thanks for your answer. Yes, It is situational but I just wanted a general rule of thumb so I could some kind of grip on this game.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:34 PM   #5
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Re: Razz: Average Winning Hand?

Al, while this question can have value in some forms of poker, in razz it really doesn't. You'll be able to tell what sorts of hands you could be up against by the cards on their board.
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:05 PM   #6
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Al, while this question can have value in some forms of poker, in razz it really doesn't. You'll be able to tell what sorts of hands you could be up against by the cards on their board.
Thanks for the reply RolldUpTrips.

I guess I am just going to have to learn to read the boards.
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:25 PM   #7
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Re: Razz: Average Winning Hand?

The average hand does not exist. The median does.
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Old 05-02-2021, 05:53 PM   #8
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Thanks for the reply RolldUpTrips.

I guess I am just going to have to learn to read the boards.
Only took 18 years
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