Almost positive this is one of those 6th street situations in which I fold, but maybe it could be a peel?
villain is fairly aggro, so he doesn't always need an ace in the hole.

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3rd Street: (0.7 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx 9____Seat 1 brings in for $3____Seat 1 folds
Seat 2: xx xx 5____Seat 2 completes____Seat 2 folds
Seat 3: xx xx A____Seat 3 folds
Hero: A 5 6___Hero raises___Hero calls
Seat 6: xx xx 2____Seat 6 3-bets
Seat 7: xx xx 5____Seat 7 folds
Seat 8: xx xx 8____Seat 8 folds

4th Street: (8 SB) (2 players)
Hero: A 5 6 K___Hero calls
Seat 6: xx xx 2 J____Seat 6 bets

5th Street: (5 BB) (2 players)
Hero: A 5 6 K Q___Hero calls
Seat 6: xx xx 2 J Q____Seat 6 bets

6th Street: (7 BB) (2 players)
Hero: A 5 6 K Q J___Hero ???
Seat 6: xx xx 2 J Q A____Seat 6 bets

SoR: Part 4, Example 17

What's SoR?

SoR is "Sklansky on Razz"

I'm working now, so I won't comment beyond reproducing the example from the book.

Villain is showing: xxQKT3
Hero has: 453JQK

"What do you do when he bets? Fold. This is a common mistake I see every day. Even though you know you are drawing to beat his present hand, it isn't worth calling unless there is a lot of money in the pot or unless he is all in (or unless you KNOW he won't bet on the end unless he makes a ten low, enabling you to fold a J when you make it). A draw to a ten vagainst a J9 made is borderline"

So Sklansky says you should fold even if you know you can draw to beat the hand he has now, and we're not even sure we can do that. If he didn't pair the A, then you're drawing dead an awful lot.

But he also says "unless there is a lot of money in the pot". There's 8bb on 6th after villain bets... that qualifies as a reasonably large pot in my book.

Unfortunately, I think it would only be a call if we peeked at his down cards and saw we weren't drawing dead. We are drawing dead, a LOT.

Do yourself a favor and work out how many combos of his hand include an A or an 8 (with an 8 down we're still drawing live)

I raise 4th and sometimes 5th to avoid this situations.

I don't get it (but i'm pretty new to razz) aren't you just putting more money in when in bad spots, just to give yourself an easier decision, but actually losing money from an ev standpoint?

raising 4th is bad, raising 5th is horrible.

I would love to play you maudsley

Misread, thought Villian went complete/call on third. 5th only under specific circumstances. No you wouldnt, you avoid me afaik.

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[x] easy fold

[x] SoR: Part 4, Example 17 was debunked in this article

[x] call if villain is capable of 5-barrelling with random range

I would barrel any hand as Villian on 6th, for my range the bestcase for him would be A7/A8 down. I dont think what he barrels 5th time is important because nearly every player barrels 100% there. Who raises a complete on thrird with this cards out and random down cards?

Anyway I agree on EAZY FOLD

From your article: I have a question: this hand was a monster on 3rd. In this specific instance, when you look at the whole texture of the board on 3rd street, how do you think it impacts the decision to call? Or, do we just say, "Oh well, we always have the odds to call here."

Also (2-parter) what's the riverplay in this hand, especially if we somehow make a smooth J? Are we betting if he checks? Raising if he bets?

Are you the chick from Thailand that just beat me in 5 straight sng's?

Certainly can't raise, and if he knows you will bet a made jack he can c/r the heck out of you. You pretty much get no value when you have the winning hand (unless he's bluffing) and he gets a lot of value when he has the winning hand.

That isn't the sole reason to fold. There are cases like this where you can call if the pot is big. But the fact that you may also be drawing dead makes it an easy fold.

Don't forget he 3bet 3rd, which narrows his range quite a bit more.

So, you didn't click SG's link or read the part I excerpted? You don't think anything about 3rd street impacts the deciisons you make on 6th and 7th?

When someone 3bets 3rd street, I'm assuming they have at least a 3 card 8. The only card he could have paired is the Ace. One is dead, and one is in our hand.

If he decided to 3bet 3rd with trash and bluff all the way down, let him. You'll get him in the long run. If if flat 3rd it would be a different story.

I added that in right after I posted it. Yeah, his 3bet makes me want to fold 6th even more. You can't always look at the pot odds. There's a reason the pots so big, and it's probably because he has the nuts.

Are you referring to the Sklansky example or the OP? Because there's a hudge difference between the two 6th st spots.

Im European.

Great article on the criticle pot size SG

mate, let's play together; i guarantee you i cap 5th, prolly 4th as your wish
wtf bro!

I misread, when he completes/call i raise/call 5th somtime to see where i stand, nothign else. I know the %ges.

TY sir. I figure if I link to it enough times, more than a dozen people will read it!

Link me to more of your articles please! I'm out of razz material to read.

I was asking about the op because you're right, there is a huge difference, not sure it's that apparent generally.

Please expand - am taking notes.

That's a fine opinion. Neither of your posts to me, however, responded to what I said or asked.

I don't have any question about what to do in this spot.