lol, redeste used to be the razz hu sngs prince, but now days is the king(and merlin707 turned to be the prince)!

the reason i said mmmccckk is one of my fav, because he make alot of money playing low-mid games, like super legendary who play stud 8 hu sngs, and make between 9k-10k per month.

Hows my line here? Is a 4th check ok or do you like a Bet? Am I spewing here on on 5th or do you like my raise? 6th a better check/call than raise?

Tournament - Razz (80/160), Ante 15, Bring-In 25 (converter)

Seat 1: 1,053
Hero: 1,947

3rd Street - (0.38 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7___brings-in
Hero: 6 9 4___calls

4th Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7 K___checks
Hero: 6 9 4 T___checks

5th Street - (0.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7 K Q___bets___calls
Hero: 6 9 4 T T___raises

6th Street - (4.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7 K Q 8___checks___calls
Hero: 6 9 4 T T 5___bets

River - (6.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7 K Q 8 xx___checks
Hero: 6 9 4 T T 5 Q___checks

Total pot: (6.50 BB - 1,040)

I think you got more out of that hand than I ever would have.

You are a a solid favourite on 5th. Raising is your moneymaker.

Not to be a jerk about it (but why stop now?), but how could 5th possibly be spewy?? This isn't about reading your opponent's range or balancing your own, this is simply a mathematical question about how much pot equity you can have in the worst case and it's trivially easy to assign the villain the best possible hand and see where you're at. There are many ways to improve your game, but this seems like a good place to start.

kyle are you leveling SG?

I'll kind of expand on what SG is saying... basically kyle, If you assign villain 2 perfect hole cards (we'll use A-2), you are a 65% favorite on 5th street, so our raise is the exact opposite of spew and were taking him to value town...

-- Also, not to be a jerk (but why stop now), before SG pointed me in the direction of that sim machine, I was pretty clueless about the equity certain hands had in different spots(find my post in his well about it, lol) ... We are all here to learn, and it's obv Kyle was just asking a question he was unsure of and not leveling.... with that said, start using this kyle: http://www.propokertools.com/simulat...tionEditor.jsp

Ty for your response, this was more what I was looking for!

I agree with what your saying here and thank you for your input. I guess I shouldn't have added spew in here and simply asked hows my line? It was a spot that doesn't come up much (the getting bet into part anyway) and I simply wanted to see if I was making the right play (even if its obv to most). It also could be that im wayyy too results oriented and posted this after I was surprised to lose the hand at showdown. Regardless, As Merc said Im learning and even though Ive had some success in a short period of time I still don't have 1k games played and have a ton of learning to do.

No...Sad, but it was an honest question.


Thank you for your input as well. As I said to SG maybe I shouldn't have put spew in the post. Thanks for the link, I know you have given me this before and Ill def start using it more often.

Even though it's rare to have the best hand when your hand is that ugly, it's the kind of spot that probably comes up a lot more in HU play and that seems to be your game. I know it's more fun to play than to study a game, but all the threads in the world won't plug your leaks better than figuring out some of the fundamentals for yourself.

That's amazing. Incredible display. Well done redeste, there are very few, including me, who would be so kind.

I wonder one thing(a bit OT) why there are more razz regs, rather than stud/stud h/l?Easyer to play? more fishes attracted? or wha?

Tournament - Razz (150/300), Ante 25 (converter)

Seat 1: 162
Hero: 2,838

3rd Street - (0.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx T___completes it to 137 (all-in)
Hero: 3 K 4___?

Villain used fold/call/limp/raise/open complete throughout the game on 3rd. Super ABC razz. What do some of you guys do?

Edit: BI is 50

Its a flip so if you think you have an edge why not take the chance and grind him down if he doubles up? He will only have just over 1 BB if he doubles up, I think your good to call.

Some people suggested folding Hand #2 in the OP.

Pot: 5.2BB

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Villain bets, Hero ???

If we always fold the river to a bet unimproved our equity is:

3/18 times Villain has paired the 5th, if his range is {6- 6-}: 17%
10/46 times Villain makes a 7: 18%
15/46 times we make an 8: 33%

Total: 27%.

5/20 times Villain has paired the 5th, if his range is {7- 7-}: 26%
10/46 times Villain makes a 7: 16%
15/46 times we make an 8: 33%

Total: 28%

1) With immediate odds of 5.2:1
2) Sometimes Villain checks the river to us and we win with a J8
3) Implied odds on the river to value raise

This is a super easy and standard call

I was a five dollar Razz HU SNG reg in my early days...

I just started to play heads-up razz and noticed alot of the regs are obviously never playing each other. From your experience how many regs from 20-55$ sng are there usually and what regs should I avoid or are atleast somewhat profitable to play against.
Thanks

20-50. hmm, brutaldelux3, razitup, sida77,

i have seen mmmccckkk and wildcat677 quite a bit (have played wildcat once, lost, don't remember how the match went and didn't start to take notes yet.)

These are most (I think) of the people I see. This is from a list of who I have played and a bad memory. Most (definitely not all) of these guys are for the most part solid and you will both lose to rake. There are some good players not on the list because they don't play a lot.

I used to check SS or OPR on players already sitting, until I didn't find a single losing player already sitting. So my rule is 'sit first'. Inevitably two regulars sit at the exact same time. There is enough trust with a few of these guys to cap every street and winner transfers back the BI because playing is a waste of 20 minutes.



So there are absolutely a couple of guys on this list you could beat for $, but I really think it is 5x more EV to sit empty and wait. Unless you intentionally want to play them to learn something.

that's pretty much the perfect list...thx for that.


Oh you can take razitup off that list. He sucks and i'm convinced he is just on a lifelong heater.

obv brag; just beat razitup and he declined a rematch

$110 + $230 now

^^ is this list in any paticular rank?

ive never played brutal (are u an aussie and pro?).

Just wanted to ask what u think of Dan idol ive been tempted to play him a few times his stats are pretty low for a reg.

Theres one more u need to add to that list, princess peach1, nothing special but still a decent regular.

I also coached nixsid (family) a little but he only plays $6 atm i think.

p.s getting back into cashtable play and less HU

I played and beat mensink in a $23 hu tonight and he seemed really bad, i think every big hand i was pretty much ahead, but he won all the early ones to get me really low and then I came all the way back, just a bad night for him?

brutal, what are those other columns in your spreadsheet?

nah hu razz sng regs are renowned for being bad at razz in general...most don't play cash games for the sole fact that they probably can't beat them, im cool with mensink though so obv not talking about him specifically but that whole list is meh

nah man, looks completely random to me