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Originally Posted by chillrob
Good for you that you can make thin value bets on the river and get called, but it seems to me that this points out the bigger mistake of calling all the way down with less than the one big pair someone else has represented the whole way.
Well, obv, the biggest mistake in stud, or any form of poker, is too loose of an opening with too passive play. That's universal.
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Originally Posted by electrical
I totally agree people don't value bet enough hands in low limit stud games, but there are precious few spots where bet/fold is the correct line, and even in those spots it cannot be every time. If a good player sees that you can bet/fold vs a strong board he will make sure you do it too often for it to ever be a good idea. Most spots I see players bet/fold could be played as bet/call or check/call more profitably.
The rare bet/fold against timid opponents is fine, and you will bluff that way sometimes, but making a habit of bet/folding hands with value on the river ought to be pretty expensive.
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Think the vast majority of players (around 90% at least) in 20/40 Stud games will never ever raise as a bluff even if it has been seen many times. It's usually clear on who the 10% that are capable are so just don't take this line against them.
This. River bluff raising is so, so rare it's insane.
People always act like making a bad river fold in a sizeable pot is a massive mistake, but it's not. It just stings more because of the size. If they are very unlikely to bluff, even if your fold is bad it's unlikely to be a huge mistake.