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Old 02-09-2009, 05:54 AM   #151
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Re: **!!**GD S IM NOT F AROUND N E MORE (!) FEB LC OH FISCHUL**!!**

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HateToGamble any good?
(Filmwise is a friend/fellow reg)

Pro Merc (Observer): is he good?
Dealer: HateToGamble wins the pot (50)
Dealer: Hand #10524569633
FilmWise: can't tell
FilmWise: he is outhitting me, lol
Dealer: FilmWise has 15 seconds left to act
Pro Merc (Observer): gl go get em tiger
FilmWise: but he's pretty good
FilmWise: u2, lol

yw
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:00 AM   #152
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=) I was there too
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:29 AM   #153
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Re: **!!**GD S IM NOT F AROUND N E MORE (!) FEB LC OH FISCHUL**!!**

Major suck-out I managed to pull out:

Razz ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Hero: 3 4 2___completes
Seat 2: xx xx 8___folds
Seat 3: xx xx T___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 7___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 4___folds
Seat 8: xx xx K___brings-in___folds

4th Street - (3.33 SB)

Hero: 3 4 2 A___bets
Seat 5: xx xx 7 4___calls

5th Street - (2.67 BB)

Hero: 3 4 2 A A___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 7 4 3___bets

6th Street - (4.67 BB)

Hero: 3 4 2 A A T___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 7 4 3 6___bets

River - (6.67 BB)

Hero: 3 4 2 A A T 6___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 7 4 3 6 xx___bets___calls

Total pot: (10.67 BB - $640)


Villain had a 6-5, and actually went in the tank after I raised. He can't possibly have been thinking about folding a 6-5, but can he possibly be thinking of raising?
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:14 AM   #154
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Re: **!!**GD S IM NOT F AROUND N E MORE (!) FEB LC OH FISCHUL**!!**

Random razz chat talking about ifishharderer:

TIR: hey gsp
TIR: i couldnt do ###% all night
TIR: with i fish on the table
TIR: they leave
TIR: and i make a comeback
TIR: its almost not worth playing when ifish is at the table
GSP88: there were some crazy ppl here
GSP88: ya i fish is way too good
GSP88: i never play him hu
riggnutt: i think fish is getting help
GSP88: cheating?
TIR: no kidding
TIR: its a %@!&ing joke
TIR: they never miss
riggnutt: from within
GSP88: 136
TIR: i totally hear you
GSP88: quite possible
TIR: its amazing the kind of #@%& fish pulls
TIR: out their !%!
TIR: and they win at EVERY table
GSP88: ive always wonder how easy it would be
GSP88: if u had someone on the inside
TIR: seriously ive never seen such luckj
riggnutt: ive been play 4 a liveuing 40 yearss he plays good but he
not real
GSP88: some of the ppl tonight must have been new
TIR: and he caps it
TIR: with the strangest !%@#
TIR: and then runner runners wheel
GSP88: ive stunk it up on 3060 tonight
TIR: i avoided this game
TIR: until ifish left
TIR: seriously, its such a buzzkill
TIR: when you know you cant win
TIR: even if you play perfect
GSP88: it sure is
TIR: so what did i miss on this game
TIR: lots of mega pots?
GSP88: crazy players
GSP88: ya sokme big pots
TIR: wow
TIR: a245
TIR: and i cant call
TIR: can you show?
riggnutt: min you got your sneakers on
TIR: mina won, time to leave mina
TIR: one hand wonder
GSP88: lol
GSP88: so true
TIR: another one like that
TIR: is nadre
TIR: if he doesnt "feel" it
GSP88: hes a great player...............just ask him
TIR: lol
TIR: by the way, GSP raped penn
TIR: it was awesome
GSP88: lol ya i loved it
TIR: it was a great card actually
GSP88: what a bit ch calls GSP a quitter and then quit after the 4th
round
TIR: he was going to die in there
GSP88: people who live in glass houses..............
TIR: it was like apollo creed in rocky
GSP88: except even more 1 sided
TIR: bye rigg
TIR: gg man
GSP88: gg
TIR: i made a sick comeback
GSP88: i need some sleep anyways
GSP88: nice
TIR: u know?
TIR: i just made a 5k run
GSP88: wow
GSP88: thats sic
TIR: the 50-100
TIR: was absurd
TIR: after fish left
GSP88: ya ualex is awful
TIR: you know what else?
TIR: ares
TIR: raises his #&!@
TIR: all the time
GSP88: a couple rooks were donkin off too
TIR: when im way ahead
TIR: and i still get sucked out on
TIR: its sick
GSP88: ya he wasnt on for too long
TIR: he ran
TIR: anyways
TIR: gnite man
TIR: gg
GSP88: $$# how long have i been playing for
GSP88: nite
GSP88: gg
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:47 AM   #155
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Re: **!!**GD S IM NOT F AROUND N E MORE (!) FEB LC OH FISCHUL**!!**

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(Filmwise is a friend/fellow reg)

Pro Merc (Observer): is he good?
Dealer: HateToGamble wins the pot (50)
Dealer: Hand #10524569633
FilmWise: can't tell
FilmWise: he is outhitting me, lol
Dealer: FilmWise has 15 seconds left to act
Pro Merc (Observer): gl go get em tiger
FilmWise: but he's pretty good
FilmWise: u2, lol

yw

I played FilmWise in a turbo HU razz sng yesterday, he's very good.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:53 AM   #156
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Most definitely yes, I donated. But just in case he had 44 in the hole I decided I wanted to bust him so I could add another screen shot to my collection:

Were you playing as Peony that night? cause he's the one that busted me. Good thing I stuck around for one last hand tho so I could get you to fold the best hand again with my scary short stack:

Razz ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2___completes
Seat 2: xx xx 6___folds
Hero: 5 7 5___folds
Seat 4: xx xx J___brings-in___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 2___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 4___folds
Seat 7: xx xx T___folds
Joe Tall: 8 3 7___folds

Total pot: (2.00 SB - $60)
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:25 AM   #157
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Re: **!!**GD S IM NOT F AROUND N E MORE (!) FEB LC OH FISCHUL**!!**

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Were you playing as Peony that night? cause he's the one that busted me. Good thing I stuck around for one last hand tho so I could get you to fold the best hand again with my scary short stack:

Razz ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2___completes
Seat 2: xx xx 6___folds
Hero: 5 7 5___folds
Seat 4: xx xx J___brings-in___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 2___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 4___folds
Seat 7: xx xx T___folds
Joe Tall: 8 3 7___folds

Total pot: (2.00 SB - $60)
Wat? Were you seat 1 also?
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:51 AM   #158
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Wat? Were you seat 1 also?
Dr. Gibson is referring to my 83-7 open fold. I think I nearly timed out, as I was multitabling and I had to take a screen shot. With all my pairs live, the 2,4, dead, and 3 better babies to act behind plus a player sitting with LESS that ONE BIG BET. My folding equity has diminished and I elected to fold.

If it is a mistake, I cannot be a big one, and I would like to hear the Docs reasoning to why it is.

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Old 02-09-2009, 11:55 AM   #159
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Were you playing as Peony that night? cause he's the one that busted me.
We all took turns as you had to re-buy to $600 four times that night, and then proceed directly to the felt. Why would you ever sit with less than 16 big bets is beyond me.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:10 PM   #160
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Dr. Gibson is referring to my 83-7 open fold. I think I nearly timed out, as I was multitabling and I had to take a screen shot. With all my pairs live, the 2,4, dead, and 3 better babies to act behind plus a player sitting with LESS that ONE BIG BET. My folding equity has diminished and I elected to fold.

If it is a mistake, I cannot be a big one, and I would like to hear the Docs reasoning to why it is.
I would call it a completely standard fold.

Anyway, attributing your fold to himself there is kinda... weird? There were lots of small cards to go through.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:27 PM   #161
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THE MATHEMATICIAN STRIKES AGAIN
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:44 PM   #162
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I would call it a completely standard fold.

Anyway, attributing your fold to himself there is kinda... weird? There were lots of small cards to go through.
He's the one attributing the fold to himself, not me.

I folded for the factors I stated in order, and yes, I agree, near standard. However, you do have to take in consideration what you can get away with post 3rd. When there is short stacks (or in this case, micro-stacks) involved in such hands, your post-3rd folding equity will be heavily diminished multi-way as the hand will be bound for a showdown when they are all-in.

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Old 02-09-2009, 01:21 PM   #163
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I have mad skillz at 30/60:

Razz ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.83 SB)

Hero: K A Q___brings-in
Seat 4: xx xx 4___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 8___folds
Seat 7: xx xx T___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 6___folds

Total pot: (0.83 SB - $25)
Yeah, but could you do that at the micros where no one folds?

Razz ($1/$2), Ante $0.20, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.60 SB)

Hero: K K K___brings-in
Seat 2: xx xx Q___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 9___folds
Seat 4: xx xx J___folds
Seat 5: xx xx J___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J___folds
Seat 7: xx xx T___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 3___folds

Total pot: (1.60 SB - $1.60)

Results (in white):[color:white]

Total pot $1.60 | Rake $0

Note: this site shuffles the hole cards.

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Old 02-09-2009, 01:36 PM   #164
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So as not to anger to LC gods, I will start a different thread to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of open folding this hand. I merely wanted to point out in this thread that if you're going to save and mount a trophy fish on your wall, you shouldn't put a plaque that says "16 lbs, 4 oz." under a 3 pounder.

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Dr. Gibson is referring to my 83-7 open fold.
I didn't realize we were coming up with pet names for each other. I usually insist on a lot more wining and dining first.

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We all took turns as you had to re-buy to $600 four times that night, and then proceed directly to the felt. Why would you ever sit with less than 16 big bets is beyond me.
I rarely sit with less than 20, but rebought for 10 that night because it was incredibly late and it looked like you sat specifically to take a shot at me. I didn't want to deny you the chance. If you want to learn more about reasons for short stacking razz cash games, I dunno -- ask spoon?
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Old 02-09-2009, 02:00 PM   #165
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So as not to anger to LC gods, I will start a different thread to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of open folding this hand. I merely wanted to point out in this thread that if you're going to save and mount a trophy fish on your wall, you shouldn't put a plaque that says "16 lbs, 4 oz." under a 3 pounder.
All respect, I would be very interested in what you have to say about the hand if you have time. Seriously.

But I'm sorry, sitting w/$45 to start a hand in a 30/60 game has got to be bigger than 3lbs for a (Largemouth). (sorry, you set yourself up for this one, I couldnt resist.)


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I didn't realize we were coming up with pet names for each other. I usually insist on a lot more wining and dining first.
I was just trying to give you a nickname, I kinda like it. You know what people say: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=370. And as for the story behind my nick, it was given to me a close to 20 years ago, and anyone who has met me understands quickly.


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I rarely sit with less than 20, but rebought for 10 four times, maybe five, that night because it was incredibly late and it looked like you sat specifically to take a shot at me. I didn't want to deny you the chance. If you want to learn more about reasons for short stacking razz cash games, I dunno -- ask spoon?
I would not sit to take a 'shot' at you, there are better spots every day. I dabble in there when the game is good. And that game was good, you cannot deny me that!
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Old 02-09-2009, 02:07 PM   #166
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I would not sit to take a 'shot' at you, there are better spots every day. I dabble in there when the game is good.
QFT. I "took a shot" at ifish last night for about 125 hands (30/60 Razz). Wouldn't you know it, we both ended up winners. Must be that the game was good.
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Old 02-09-2009, 02:32 PM   #167
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Yeah, that is justifiable, it only was like a 150 more from 9-8. Hopefully I'll be on the rail when you take down the big one!
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:41 PM   #168
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Re: **!!**GD S IM NOT F AROUND N E MORE (!) FEB LC OH FISCHUL**!!**

Not quite a SIWAS:

Tournament - Razz (30/60), Ante 5, Bring-In 10 (converter)

Hero: 1,440
Seat 2: 1,560

3rd Street - (0.33 SB)

Hero: 2 2 7___brings-in
Seat 2: xx xx 7___calls

4th Street - (1.00 SB)

Hero: 2 2 7 5___checks
Seat 2: xx xx 7 6___checks

5th Street - (0.50 BB)

Hero: 2 2 7 5 8___checks
Seat 2: xx xx 7 6 9___checks

6th Street - (0.50 BB)

Hero: 2 2 7 5 8 7___raises
Seat 2: xx xx 7 6 9 6___bets___calls

River - (4.50 BB)

Hero: 2 2 7 5 8 7 Q___bets
Seat 2: xx xx 7 6 9 6 xx___checks___folds

Total pot: (4.50 BB - 270)

Results (in white):[color:white]

Total pot 270 | Rake 0

Note: this site shuffles the hole cards.

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Old 02-09-2009, 03:46 PM   #169
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Not quite a SIWAS
Your 6th street SIWAS set up 7th street. Still, nice one...
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But I'm sorry, sitting w/$45 to start a hand in a 30/60 game has got to be bigger than 3lbs for a (Largemouth). (sorry, you set yourself up for this one, I couldnt resist.)
Now that was at least funny I don't make a habit of sitting with a short stack, tho I will do it occasionally to brush up on push/fold decisions that may come up in tourneys. In this case, I just wasn't quick enough on the "sit out" button after losing the previous pot IIRC.

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I would not sit to take a 'shot' at you, there are better spots every day. I dabble in there when the game is good. And that game was good, you cannot deny me that!
ldo! Why do you think I was playing in the middle of the night?
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:11 PM   #171
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I think we need some Stud forum wells. I recommend Ceegee or Rusty or Andy, unless said people have done wells before my time.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:12 PM   #172
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I did it a few months ago.
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errr I call for a stickied link to popular wells on the front page!
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I just wasn't quick enough on the "sit out" button after losing the previous pot IIRC.
Please. This was the 3rd time you were near-felted in the session. Rebuying to $600 and going to $0 each time.

Such the example or your starting stacks:
Seat 3: SGspecial ($486)
next hand:
Seat 3: SGspecial ($241)
next hand:
Seat 3: SGspecial ($0), is sitting out
SGspecial adds $600
SGspecial has returned
few hands later:
Seat 3: SGspecial ($500)
few hands after that:
Seat 3: SGspecial ($415)
next hand:
Seat 3: SGspecial ($230)
next hand:
Seat 3: SGspecial ($45)
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:32 PM   #175
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i agree that we should do SOMETHING with a sticky. i mean i know we know where to find most of the threads were looking for, but a sticky with least busto thread links in it could be good no!? well threads, lc threads, some strat threads. these are all nice to revisit from time to time

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