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Old 05-29-2020, 10:59 AM   #1
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does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

i emailed them 3 times and can't get a straight answer.

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Old 05-30-2020, 02:45 PM   #2
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

to my recollection FT did, but stars did not. of course that was years ago so i can't say for sure nowadays.
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Old 06-01-2020, 12:46 AM   #3
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

it's "hold cards"
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:21 AM   #4
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

shouldn't take long to figure out on your own, if a straight-forward player shows down what would be a silly hand if it wasn't shuffled then it's probably shuffled

by the way, it's whure cards
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:46 PM   #5
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

whole cards?
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Old 06-02-2020, 05:25 PM   #6
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

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shouldn't take long to figure out on your own, if a straight-forward player shows down what would be a silly hand if it wasn't shuffled then it's probably shuffled

by the way, it's whure cards
lol...they don't exist online : )


also fwiw I thought it was hole cards too : )

Stars doesn't to my knowledge. But I see so many (29)4 badugis roll out maybe they do
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Old 06-04-2020, 05:06 AM   #7
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it's "hold cards"
no, it isn't
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Old 06-09-2020, 12:13 AM   #8
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

Don't listen to me, let's check in with Ike Haxton:

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Old 06-10-2020, 06:29 PM   #9
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

why don't you check in with chip reese (may he rest in peace) who wrote the stud hi section of super system. also check in with todd brunson who wrote the stud 8 section of ss2. check the stud variant of poker on wikipedia.
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Old 06-10-2020, 07:02 PM   #10
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dude lol
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Old 06-15-2020, 10:43 AM   #11
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I thought Chips was joking, I think it's clearly hole cards, ace in the hole is a pretty common term, this 1951 movie is called Ace in the Hole, not Ace in the Hold


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043338/
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Old 06-15-2020, 11:47 AM   #12
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

Guys: get out of the house; wear a mask; but get some exercise.
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Old 06-15-2020, 11:57 AM   #13
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Guys: get out of the house; wear a mask; but get some exercise.
skip the mask, especially if you are exercising
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Old 06-16-2020, 01:31 AM   #14
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I thought Chips was joking, I think it's clearly hole cards, ace in the hole is a pretty common term, this 1951 movie is called Ace in the Hole, not Ace in the Hold


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043338/
the hole is the sleeve, like, where cheaters put one. it's Texas HOLD'em with HOLD CARDS.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:52 AM   #15
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the hole is the sleeve, like, where cheaters put one. it's Texas HOLD'em with HOLD CARDS.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:21 AM   #16
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the hole is the sleeve, like, where cheaters put one. it's Texas HOLD'em with HOLD CARDS.
I gotcha, maybe not the best example then. But your hidden cards that you have in Stud have been referred to as hole cards throughout poker literature for past 100 years

Anyone is free to call them whatever they want though, but referring to them as hole cards has a lot more precedent especially when it comes to Stud
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:12 PM   #17
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

Also in Holdem for Advanced Players there is a chapter called, Playing Pairs in the Hole

Is this some type of inside level though? Like every time you get another sucker wasting time on this there’s people chuckling in the background? Lol
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:03 AM   #18
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

nlh hand history from stars:

Dealer: Starting new hand: #215508394694
Dealer: lazrom posts small blind*$0.50
Dealer: droopylu posts big blind*$1
Dealer: biurtyj sits out
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:17 AM   #19
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

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nlh hand history from stars:

Dealer: Starting new hand: #215508394694
Dealer: lazrom posts small blind*$0.50
Dealer: droopylu posts big blind*$1
Dealer: biurtyj sits out
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
You must be new to the game? It's 100% hold cards.
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:41 AM   #20
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

I hope you guys are proud of yourselves. Otoh, this thread is quickly becoming elite.

Btw razz is 7-card stud played for low.
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Old 06-19-2020, 11:51 AM   #21
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Btw razz is 7-card stud played for low.
What if I make a low straight?
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Old 06-22-2020, 10:57 PM   #22
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What if I make a low straight?
All of the same suit?
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Old 06-23-2020, 09:14 PM   #23
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Re: does pokerstars scramble the hole cards?

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nlh hand history from stars:

Dealer: Starting new hand: #215508394694
Dealer: lazrom posts small blind*$0.50
Dealer: droopylu posts big blind*$1
Dealer: biurtyj sits out
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
if pokerstars does it, it's definitely wrong
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