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Old 03-24-2010, 10:49 PM   #576
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Re: Can we start March Low Content yet?

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Seat 3: xx xx 8____Seat 3 folds
Hero: 9 8 T___Hero calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5____Seat 5 calls
Seat 6: xx xx 4____Seat 6 brings in for $1____Seat 6 folds
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6th Street: (8.833 BB) (2 players)
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:02 AM   #577
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dfgjdfglkjlkj **** why do i always resort to martingale **** ive gotten ****ed over atleast 4 times by martingale sdigsjdogijsdgiosjgosjgoisjdog ft needs to have a restrict option on f'ing superturbos and certain stakes for sngs sodgjsdiogjsdg
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:05 AM   #578
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wow, first time i see bass tilting
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:18 AM   #579
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dfgjdfglkjlkj **** why do i always resort to martingale **** ive gotten ****ed over atleast 4 times by martingale sdigsjdogijsdgiosjgosjgoisjdog ft needs to have a restrict option on f'ing superturbos and certain stakes for sngs sodgjsdiogjsdg
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:23 AM   #580
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dfgjdfglkjlkj **** why do i always resort to martingale **** ive gotten ****ed over atleast 4 times by martingale sdigsjdogijsdgiosjgosjgoisjdog ft needs to have a restrict option on f'ing superturbos and certain stakes for sngs sodgjsdiogjsdg
The martingale system is a trainwreck of an idea for HU Razz SNGs.

Let's assume you start with the $14 super turbos. And let's assume for simplicity that you will win 50% of your SNGs. If you lose the first, you play the $28, then the $55, the $110, $220 and balance the $330s with $550s to come up with an average buyin ~$440 for the final one. Since these are the only options available to us, this set of buy-in options closes the martingale game for us at $550. So, what would be our expectancy using this strategy? This is actually fairly simple to calculate.

We will win the martingale game (1-(0.5)^5)% of the time. Another way of putting it is that we will lose all 5 games 3.125% of the time. This means we will win 96.875% of the time. However, the key is knowing what a win and loss imply. A win is worth ~$14 (because even if we win at the $440 level, our losses getting there dictate that we win at the margin of our initial bet), while a loss is worth ~$867 (14+28+55+110+220+440). Note that this is the end of the game for us. We cannot continue to raise the stakes. We must now choose to either just play 550s or start a new game. So... our long term expectancy is easy to solve for each game.

It is the % of the time we win the martingale game multiplied by the amount we gain by a win minus the % of the time we lose the martingale game multiplied by the amount we lose in a loss.

or... = (0.96875)*($14) - (0.03125)*($867) = -$13.53 each time we implement this strategy.
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:27 AM   #581
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standard disclaimers apply... yes I know this isn't a true martingale game and our odds of winning arent 50% and the value we win isnt exactly $14... blah blah blah, but you get the point. It's a fair approximation
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:13 AM   #582
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every good poker player should know or get this pretty fast. faster you should get that tilitng is bad, and i hat you for tilting here.
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Old 03-25-2010, 11:40 AM   #583
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standard disclaimers apply... yes I know this isn't a true martingale game and our odds of winning arent 50% and the value we win isnt exactly $14... blah blah blah, but you get the point. It's a fair approximation
actually if his odds of winning at the $14 BI are 50%, then his EV with this strategy should be far worse than -$13. DUCY?
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:27 AM   #584
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ugh, its too hard to restrain myself from using martingale and it doesnt help that it takes a long time to actually get a sng started. dunno how people can handle stretches of 8 game losses where opponent is significantly worse and ends up calling streets where they should have folded and as a result ends up getting it in as a underdog, but winning the hand anyways, happening possibly numerous times in one game.
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ugh, its too hard to restrain myself from using martingale and it doesnt help that it takes a long time to actually get a sng started. dunno how people can handle stretches of 8 game losses where opponent is significantly worse and ends up calling streets where they should have folded and as a result ends up getting it in as a underdog, but winning the hand anyways, happening possibly numerous times in one game.
Cash out and never play again, you'll thank me later.
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The tao of programming tells me to be liberal in what I accept and conservative in what I give.

This is actually The Robusto Principle, sort of.
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:45 PM   #590
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The tao of programming tells me to be liberal in what I accept and conservative in what I give.

This is actually The Robusto Principle, sort of.
Postel's Law. When you write protocol firmware for backbone Internet routers, like I did for five years, you live and die by Postel's Law.
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is it true that if you feed pidgeons bread with baking soda on it that their stomach explodes
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Old 03-26-2010, 07:36 PM   #592
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What?????????

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Seat 1: xx xx A____Seat 1 raises
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Seat 3: xx xx 6____Seat 3 brings in for $0.15____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx K____Seat 4 folds
Seat 5: xx xx A____Seat 5 folds
Seat 6: xx xx 7____Seat 6 folds

4th Street: (4.2 SB) (3 players)
Seat 1: xx xx A 8____Seat 1 checks____Seat 1 calls
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Seat 1: xx xx A 8 9____Seat 1 bets____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 7 3 A 2 7___Hero raises
Seat 3: xx xx 6 J 9____Seat 3 folds

6th Street: (7.6 BB) (2 players)
Seat 1: xx xx A 8 9 9____Seat 1 bets____Seat 1 calls
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7th Street: (11.6 BB) (2 players)
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Hero: 7 3 A 2 7 6 T___Hero bets

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Old 03-26-2010, 08:14 PM   #593
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holy **** my wheel draws on 5th are actually beating razitup's 8 draws, omfg this feels amazing
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just one thing to say

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Old 03-27-2010, 02:31 AM   #598
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why do you guys check the low content thread so often, and complain when im whining despite numerous other pasted hand histories that are random brags/beats?
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why do you guys check the low content thread so often, and complain when im whining despite numerous other pasted hand histories that are random brags/beats?
[] They're just jealous that they have nothing to whine about. Just ignore them.

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[ ] whining = random brags/beats
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