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yeah villian caps xxQ vs A25 at 100 200

i havent posted brag hands in a while and winning isnt easy these days. hands happened back to back. third st is funny in the first one.

Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker $25/$50 Limit Stud $4 Ante - 6 players
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3rd Street: (0.96 SB)
Anointed: xx xx 8____Anointed folds
Citizen Eraced: xx xx K____Citizen Eraced folds
Hero: 2 Q A___Hero completes___Hero 3-bets___Hero calls
Marc Karam: xx xx 3____Marc Karam brings in for $8____Marc Karam raises____Marc Karam caps!
sopwith: xx xx 7____sopwith folds
HoyaSDaxa: xx xx 6____HoyaSDaxa folds

4th Street: (8.96 SB) (2 players)
Hero: 2 Q A 3___Hero checks___Hero calls
Marc Karam: xx xx 3 8____Marc Karam bets

5th Street: (5.48 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 2 Q A 3 8___Hero checks___Hero calls
Marc Karam: xx xx 3 8 T____Marc Karam bets

6th Street: (7.48 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 2 Q A 3 8 5___Hero checks___Hero calls
Marc Karam: xx xx 3 8 T 7____Marc Karam bets

7th Street: (9.48 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 2 Q A 3 8 5 J___Hero checks___Hero calls
Marc Karam: xx xx 3 8 T 7 xx____Marc Karam bets

Final Pot: 11.48 BB
Hero shows 2 Q A 3 8 5 J (Ace Queen high)
Marc Karam shows A Q 3 8 T 7 9 (Ace Queen high)
Hero wins 11.42 BB
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #2
Full Tilt Poker $25/$50 Limit Stud $4 Ante - 6 players
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3rd Street: (0.96 SB)
Anointed: xx xx Q____Anointed folds
Citizen Eraced: xx xx 6____Citizen Eraced folds
Hero: 6 J 3___Hero brings in for $8___Hero says "next"___Hero calls
Marc Karam: xx xx K____Marc Karam completes
sopwith: xx xx T____sopwith folds
HoyaSDaxa: xx xx Q____HoyaSDaxa folds

4th Street: (2.96 SB) (2 players)
Hero: 6 J 3 3___Hero bets
Marc Karam: xx xx K J____Marc Karam says "very nice"____Marc Karam calls

5th Street: (3.48 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 6 J 3 3 9___Hero says "srry that was rude"___Hero requests TIME___Hero calls
Marc Karam: xx xx K J K____Marc Karam bets

6th Street: (5.48 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 6 J 3 3 9 A___Hero bets
Marc Karam: xx xx K J K 5____Marc Karam checks____Marc Karam calls

7th Street: (7.48 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 6 J 3 3 9 A Q___Hero bets
Marc Karam: xx xx K J K 5 xx____Marc Karam checks____Marc Karam folds

Final Pot: 7.48 BB
Hero wins 7.42 BB
(Rake: $3.00)

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Poker Stars $3/$6 Limit Razz $0.25 Ante - 7 players
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3rd Street: (0.583 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx 8____Seat 1 folds
Hero: A 8 4___Hero raises___Hero calls
Seat 4: xx xx T____Seat 4 folds
Seat 5: xx xx 5____Seat 5 3-bets
Seat 6: xx xx 6____Seat 6 folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7____Seat 7 calls
Seat 8: xx xx K____Seat 8 brings in for $1____Seat 8 folds

4th Street: (6.917 SB) (3 players)
Hero: A 8 4 Q___Hero calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5 A____Seat 5 bets
Seat 7: xx xx 7 Q____Seat 7 calls

5th Street: (4.958 BB) (3 players)
Hero: A 8 4 Q 7___Hero checks___Hero calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5 A A____Seat 5 bets
Seat 7: xx xx 7 Q K____Seat 7 folds

6th Street: (6.958 BB) (2 players)
Hero: A 8 4 Q 7 4___Hero calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5 A A 2____Seat 5 bets

7th Street: (8.958 BB) (2 players)
Hero: A 8 4 Q 7 4 Q___Hero says "BLehhhh"___Hero says "soul read?"___Hero calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5 A A 2 xx____Seat 5 bets

Final Pot: 10.958 BB
Hero shows A 8 4 Q 7 4 Q (Lo: Q,8,7,4,A)
Seat 5 shows 2 4 5 A A 2 K (Lo: K,5,4,2,A)
Hero wins 10.625 BB
(Rake: $2.00)

wolves gotta eat too

The comments are actually pretty entertaining, for a pack of wild dogs (wolves might be too classy for BBV...)

The hand in question is here - *WARNING* link to BBV

FOLD FITH

but why... he won!

aufuu...have you ever given advice to someone in a 3way pot and say "I would raise villain 1's bet(even though a little behind) b/c you know villain 2 will dump his money into the pot b/c he has a "zomg 7 draw!"?

Well in this hand, you are villain 2.

Yeah, but that alone doesn't make it a must-fold. It all comes down to pot size and pot odds. It can be correct to dump money into the pot when you're in third place because you're priced in to call even if it's capped.

Or in other words, just because the Villains gain by jamming, that doesn't mean that Hero loses by calling.

(In this hand, Hero likely does lose by calling, but not because he's getting jammed -- it's because he's not getting the odds to call a capped street.)

On what training sites besides deuces cracked (already watching and loving those videos) are good stud8 videos?

STUDstood said, "i have come to a conclusion, Ceegee87"
STUDstood said, "you play very good stud poker"

I thought I was playing 7-Game for the stud rounds... oh, well.


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (BB): $242.45
UTG: $142.85
MP: $99.35
CO: $100.00
BTN: $127.75
SB: $39.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 4 4 5 6
UTG raises to $3.50, MP calls $3.50, 2 folds, SB calls $3, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($14.00) 4 Q Q (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $14, MP calls $14, SB folds, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($56.00) 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $56, MP folds, Hero raises to $224, UTG calls $69.35 all in

River: ($306.70) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $306.70
Hero shows 4 4 5 6 (a full house, Fours full of Queens)
UTG shows A 2 Q T (three of a kind, Queens)
Hero wins $303.70
(Rake: $3.00)

Couldn't have been stated better.

YAHTZEE

Full Tilt Poker $14 + $0.50 Heads Up Limit Razz Tournament - t40/t80 Limit + t7 - 2 players - View hand 604059
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Seat 1: t255 M = 3.45
Hero (): t345 M = 4.66

3rd Street: (0.35 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx Q ____Seat 1 brings in for $10____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 9 9 9 ___Hero completes

4th Street: (2.35 SB) (2 players)
Seat 1: xx xx Q 4 ____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 9 9 9 2 ___Hero bets

5th Street: (2.175 BB) (2 players)
Seat 1: xx xx Q 4 J ____Seat 1 checks
Hero: 9 9 9 2 9 ___Hero checks

6th Street: (2.175 BB) (2 players)
Seat 1: xx xx Q 4 J K ____Seat 1 checks____Seat 1 folds
Hero: 9 9 9 2 9 5 ___Hero bets


Finally hit quads!!!!

What a nightmare. Stud regs are talking strat in a bbv forum. Where did the world go wong.

I profoundly hate poker. I engage in no other hobby which serves only to kick me in the testicles about 70% of the time.

Poker Stars $0.20/$0.40 Limit Stud $0.04 Ante - 5 players
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3rd Street: (1 SB)
Hero: Q K K___Hero raises___Hero caps!
Seat 3: xx xx T____Seat 3 3-bets____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx J____Seat 4 folds
Seat 5: xx xx J____Seat 5 folds
Seat 6: xx xx 2____Seat 6 brings in for $0.06____Seat 6 calls____Seat 6 calls

4th Street: (10 SB) (3 players)
Hero: Q K K 3___Hero checks
Seat 3: xx xx T T____Seat 3 checks
Seat 6: xx xx 2 5____Seat 6 checks

5th Street: (5 BB) (3 players)
Hero: Q K K 3 4___Hero says oh for ****'s sake and folds
Seat 3: xx xx T T T____Seat 3 bets
Seat 6: xx xx 2 5 7____Seat 6 folds

FML
Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 Limit Razz $1 Ante - 7 players
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3rd Street: (1.4 SB)
Hero: 4 7 A___Hero 3-bets___Hero calls
Seat 2: xx xx J____Seat 2 brings in for $1.50____Seat 2 folds
Seat 3: xx xx 6____Seat 3 folds
Seat 5: xx xx J____Seat 5 folds
Seat 6: xx xx A____Seat 6 folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7____Seat 7 completes____Seat 7 caps!
Seat 8: xx xx 9____Seat 8 raises____Seat 8 calls

4th Street: (13.7 SB) (3 players)
Hero: 4 7 A 2___Hero bets___Hero 3-bets___Hero calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7 T____Seat 7 calls____Seat 7 calls____Seat 7 calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9 4____Seat 8 raises____Seat 8 caps!

5th Street: (12.85 BB) (3 players)
Hero: 4 7 A 2 6___Hero bets
Seat 7: xx xx 7 T 5____Seat 7 calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9 4 8____Seat 8 calls all in

6th Street: (15.35 BB) (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero: 4 7 A 2 6 T___Hero bets
Seat 7: xx xx 7 T 5 7____Seat 7 calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9 4 8 3

7th Street: (17.35 BB) (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero: 4 7 A 2 6 T 9___Hero bets
Seat 7: xx xx 7 T 5 7 xx____Seat 7 calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9 4 8 3 xx

Final Pot: 19.35 BB
Hero shows 4 7 A 2 6 T 9 (7,6,4,2,A)
Seat 7 shows 4 2 7 T 5 7 A (7,5,4,2,A)
Seat 8 mucks 8 6 9 4 8 3 2
Seat 7 wins 5 BB
Seat 7 wins 14.05 BB
(Rake: $3.00)

Sorry if this has been asked already but for someone new to 7C hi/lo would it be better to read Sklansky's section in SS1 or Ray Zee's book first?

Ray Zee's Hi/Low Split, and Tood Brunson's section in SS2 give good fundamentals for a Stud8 beginner.

Is Sklansky's section more advanced or just not that good at all?

Sklansky's work in SS1 is somewhat irrelevant. The game he analyses in the book has no qualifier for low. In other words, you're opponent can take low with broadway vs your full house if no one makes low. This drastically changes our approach to the game. It makes hands like KKx total garbage.

Oh I see. Thanks!