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03-24-2010 , 10:49 PM
Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Limit Stud $0.50 Ante - 8 players
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3rd Street: (1.333 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx T____Seat 1 completes
Seat 2: xx xx A____Seat 2 calls
Seat 3: xx xx 8____Seat 3 folds
Hero: 9 8 T___Hero calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5____Seat 5 calls
Seat 6: xx xx 4____Seat 6 brings in for $1____Seat 6 folds
Seat 7: xx xx 6____Seat 7 folds
Seat 8: xx xx T____Seat 8 folds

4th Street: (5.667 SB) (4 players)
Seat 1: xx xx T J____Seat 1 bets____Seat 1 calls
Seat 2: xx xx A T____Seat 2 checks____Seat 2 calls____Seat 2 calls
Hero: 9 8 T J___Hero checks___Hero raises
Seat 5: xx xx 5 J____Seat 5 checks____Seat 5 calls

5th Street: (6.833 BB) (4 players)
Seat 1: xx xx T J 6____Seat 1 calls
Seat 2: xx xx A T Q____Seat 2 checks____Seat 2 folds
Hero: 9 8 T J A___Hero bets
Seat 5: xx xx 5 J 8____Seat 5 folds

6th Street: (8.833 BB) (2 players)
Seat 1: xx xx T J 6 K____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 9 8 T J A 5___Hero bets

7th Street: (10.833 BB) (2 players)
Seat 1: xx xx T J 6 K xx____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 9 8 T J A 5 7___Hero bets
03-25-2010 , 01:02 AM
dfgjdfglkjlkj **** why do i always resort to martingale **** ive gotten ****ed over atleast 4 times by martingale sdigsjdogijsdgiosjgosjgoisjdog ft needs to have a restrict option on f'ing superturbos and certain stakes for sngs sodgjsdiogjsdg
03-25-2010 , 01:05 AM
wow, first time i see bass tilting
Spoiler:

andy, stop it!
03-25-2010 , 01:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bass3p
dfgjdfglkjlkj **** why do i always resort to martingale **** ive gotten ****ed over atleast 4 times by martingale sdigsjdogijsdgiosjgosjgoisjdog ft needs to have a restrict option on f'ing superturbos and certain stakes for sngs sodgjsdiogjsdg
Because Martingale graphs look awesome?
03-25-2010 , 02:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bass3p
dfgjdfglkjlkj **** why do i always resort to martingale **** ive gotten ****ed over atleast 4 times by martingale sdigsjdogijsdgiosjgosjgoisjdog ft needs to have a restrict option on f'ing superturbos and certain stakes for sngs sodgjsdiogjsdg
The martingale system is a trainwreck of an idea for HU Razz SNGs.

Let's assume you start with the $14 super turbos. And let's assume for simplicity that you will win 50% of your SNGs. If you lose the first, you play the $28, then the $55, the $110, $220 and balance the $330s with $550s to come up with an average buyin ~$440 for the final one. Since these are the only options available to us, this set of buy-in options closes the martingale game for us at $550. So, what would be our expectancy using this strategy? This is actually fairly simple to calculate.

We will win the martingale game (1-(0.5)^5)% of the time. Another way of putting it is that we will lose all 5 games 3.125% of the time. This means we will win 96.875% of the time. However, the key is knowing what a win and loss imply. A win is worth ~$14 (because even if we win at the $440 level, our losses getting there dictate that we win at the margin of our initial bet), while a loss is worth ~$867 (14+28+55+110+220+440). Note that this is the end of the game for us. We cannot continue to raise the stakes. We must now choose to either just play 550s or start a new game. So... our long term expectancy is easy to solve for each game.

It is the % of the time we win the martingale game multiplied by the amount we gain by a win minus the % of the time we lose the martingale game multiplied by the amount we lose in a loss.

or... = (0.96875)*($14) - (0.03125)*($867) = -$13.53 each time we implement this strategy.
03-25-2010 , 02:27 AM
standard disclaimers apply... yes I know this isn't a true martingale game and our odds of winning arent 50% and the value we win isnt exactly $14... blah blah blah, but you get the point. It's a fair approximation
03-25-2010 , 09:13 AM
every good poker player should know or get this pretty fast. faster you should get that tilitng is bad, and i hat you for tilting here.
03-25-2010 , 11:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RainmanTrail
standard disclaimers apply... yes I know this isn't a true martingale game and our odds of winning arent 50% and the value we win isnt exactly $14... blah blah blah, but you get the point. It's a fair approximation
actually if his odds of winning at the $14 BI are 50%, then his EV with this strategy should be far worse than -$13. DUCY?
03-26-2010 , 12:27 AM
ugh, its too hard to restrain myself from using martingale and it doesnt help that it takes a long time to actually get a sng started. dunno how people can handle stretches of 8 game losses where opponent is significantly worse and ends up calling streets where they should have folded and as a result ends up getting it in as a underdog, but winning the hand anyways, happening possibly numerous times in one game.
03-26-2010 , 12:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bass3p
ugh, its too hard to restrain myself from using martingale and it doesnt help that it takes a long time to actually get a sng started. dunno how people can handle stretches of 8 game losses where opponent is significantly worse and ends up calling streets where they should have folded and as a result ends up getting it in as a underdog, but winning the hand anyways, happening possibly numerous times in one game.
Cash out and never play again, you'll thank me later.
03-26-2010 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
Cash out and never play again, you'll thank me later.
The rest of us will thank you now.
03-26-2010 , 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGspecial
The rest of us will thank you now.
I accept cookies.
03-26-2010 , 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
I accept cookies.
From unknown web sites?
03-26-2010 , 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phat Mack
From unknown web sites?
The tao of programming tells me to be liberal in what I accept and conservative in what I give.

This is actually The Robusto Principle, sort of.
03-26-2010 , 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
The tao of programming tells me to be liberal in what I accept and conservative in what I give.

This is actually The Robusto Principle, sort of.
Postel's Law. When you write protocol firmware for backbone Internet routers, like I did for five years, you live and die by Postel's Law.
03-26-2010 , 02:21 PM
is it true that if you feed pidgeons bread with baking soda on it that their stomach explodes
03-26-2010 , 07:36 PM
What?????????

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Stud Hi/Lo $0.10 Ante - 6 players
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3rd Street: (1.2 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx A____Seat 1 raises
Hero: 7 3 A___Hero calls
Seat 3: xx xx 6____Seat 3 brings in for $0.15____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx K____Seat 4 folds
Seat 5: xx xx A____Seat 5 folds
Seat 6: xx xx 7____Seat 6 folds

4th Street: (4.2 SB) (3 players)
Seat 1: xx xx A 8____Seat 1 checks____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 7 3 A 2___Hero bets
Seat 3: xx xx 6 J____Seat 3 calls

5th Street: (3.6 BB) (3 players)
Seat 1: xx xx A 8 9____Seat 1 bets____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 7 3 A 2 7___Hero raises
Seat 3: xx xx 6 J 9____Seat 3 folds

6th Street: (7.6 BB) (2 players)
Seat 1: xx xx A 8 9 9____Seat 1 bets____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 7 3 A 2 7 6___Hero raises

7th Street: (11.6 BB) (2 players)
Seat 1: xx xx A 8 9 9 xx____Seat 1 checks____Seat 1 calls
Hero: 7 3 A 2 7 6 T___Hero bets

Final Pot: 13.6 BB
Seat 1 shows Q J A 8 9 9 2 (HI: a pair of Nines)
Hero shows 7 3 A 2 7 6 T (HI: a pair of Sevens; LO: 7,6,3,2,A)
Seat 1 wins 6.55 BB
Hero wins 6.55 BB
(Rake: $0.50)
03-26-2010 , 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheYellow
is it true that if you feed pidgeons bread with baking soda on it that their stomach explodes
I believe so. One of my all-time musical heroes on a closely-related subject.
03-27-2010 , 12:11 AM
holy **** my wheel draws on 5th are actually beating razitup's 8 draws, omfg this feels amazing
03-27-2010 , 12:28 AM
just one thing to say

Spoiler:
FACEPALM!
03-27-2010 , 02:11 AM
please ban bass3p
03-27-2010 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kanonk
please ban bass3p
+1


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horse 100$ mtt, heads up last two hands. 2x runner runner


Poker Stars $100+$9 Limit Stud Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit + t800 - 2 players
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Hero (): t32718 M = 4.30
Seat 5: t129282 M = 17.01

3rd Street: (0.4 SB)
Hero: 3 4 4___Hero brings in for $1200___Hero calls
Seat 5: xx xx K____Seat 5 raises

4th Street: (2.4 SB) (2 players)
Hero: 3 4 4 3___Hero raises
Seat 5: xx xx K 4____Seat 5 bets____Seat 5 calls

5th Street: (3.2 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 3 4 4 3 T___Hero raises___Hero calls all in
Seat 5: xx xx K 4 5____Seat 5 bets____Seat 5 3-bets

6th Street: (8.180 BB) (2 players - 1 is all in)
Hero: 3 4 4 3 T 5
Seat 5: xx xx K 4 5 A

7th Street: (8.180 BB) (2 players - 1 is all in)
Hero: 3 4 4 3 T 5 9
Seat 5: xx xx K 4 5 A xx

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 8.180 BB
Hero shows 3s 4h 4s 3h Th 5c 9s (HI: two pair, Fours and Threes)
Seat 5 shows 8c 8h Kh 4c 5d As 3c (HI: a pair of Eights; LO: 8,5,4,3,A)
Hero wins 4.090 BB
Seat 5 wins 4.090 BB



Poker Stars $100+$9 Limit Stud Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit + t800 - 2 players
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Hero (): t32718 M = 4.30
Seat 5: t129282 M = 17.01

3rd Street: (0.4 SB)
Hero: 4 2 4___Hero brings in for $1200
Seat 5: xx xx 7____Seat 5 calls

4th Street: (1 SB) (2 players)
Hero: 4 2 4 J___Hero bets
Seat 5: xx xx 7 3____Seat 5 calls

5th Street: (1.5 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 4 2 4 J 4___Hero bets
Seat 5: xx xx 7 3 3____Seat 5 calls

6th Street: (3.5 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 4 2 4 J 4 K___Hero bets
Seat 5: xx xx 7 3 3 8____Seat 5 calls

7th Street: (5.5 BB) (2 players)
Hero: 4 2 4 J 4 K 6___Hero bets___Hero calls all in
Seat 5: xx xx 7 3 3 8 xx____Seat 5 raises

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 8.180 BB
Hero shows 4d 2d 4h Jh 4c Kc 6h (HI: three of a kind, Fours)
Seat 5 shows 8s 2c 7c 3d 3s 8h 3h (HI: a full house, Threes full of Eights)
Seat 5 wins 8.180 BB
03-27-2010 , 02:31 AM
why do you guys check the low content thread so often, and complain when im whining despite numerous other pasted hand histories that are random brags/beats?
03-27-2010 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bass3p
why do you guys check the low content thread so often, and complain when im whining despite numerous other pasted hand histories that are random brags/beats?
[] They're just jealous that they have nothing to whine about. Just ignore them.

[x] Razitup agents, ldo
03-27-2010 , 03:44 AM
[ ] whining = random brags/beats

      
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