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10-08-2017 , 09:15 PM
this seems to be a leak of mine playing micro/low stakes

i complete 3rd and my opponent doesn't catch anything good. i bet and keep betting when they keep bricking, even when i also brick.

so if i have a K up, K's were live and my opponent is calling with a 6 door, hits like a 2 or a Q, he's still calling me all the way down a lot, and this play isn't really working, even though he doesn't have anything. so he might have a **** pair or something like that, but a lot of the time i notice they don't even have any pair or even straight or flush draw and will call all the way to try and hit one pair on the river!

i think i might be taking holdem thinking and applying it to stud.

but at the same time, if i don't bet when i have nothing, my opponents will probably pick up on that.

i know these guys are the dream opponents and i know i should probably just never bluff them, but that makes my play lack any deception, which can be a problem if i am in a multiway pot and there is a good player in the hand with me.

Last edited by LUCIUS VARENUS; 10-08-2017 at 09:21 PM.
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10-09-2017 , 12:39 PM
Play it like Razz, bet if you catch good and they catch bad.
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10-11-2017 , 06:27 AM
This style was useful when people were overfolding. People are better now at realizing the equity of their hands, so it's really important to be cognizant of board textures and ranges. The things that won a lot of people money back in the day have become the source of most of the dead money now. Quel dommage
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10-22-2017 , 11:21 PM
I am not sure how micro limits are played.

But, I would suggest you don't try and represent, just bet your hand.

If you are drawing with low pair, or straight or flush draw, play to fifth, and get open ended or 4 suited.

please note, if your opponent is calling, with a 4 up and hits a queen, he might also make queens and 4's. at higher limits, if I am bring in with a 3, and have split 3's with a 9, I will call a raise and a bet against an ace till fifth. Will also call with 3 cards to a straight, or any pocket pair. If I don't improve, I usually dump on fifth if I don't know the player well. Sometimes, I will raise him with completely random low pair on fifth representing trips on fifth. But, once again, must know your player and must know up cards. Doesn't work, for instance, if I catch a 7 on 5th and two sevens were exposed

I think the most useful advice to give you at micro limits is to just bet your hand and punish them. And if they surprise you with some move, call down.
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10-22-2017 , 11:56 PM
I would adjust by tightening up your starting requirements and not stealing as frequently. This way instead of barreling off trying to bluff calling stations youll be taking them straight to value town.
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10-23-2017 , 12:03 AM
and forgot to mention: no shame in throwing in the towel and giving up/checking 4th-5th. youll find that these low limit passive types will give you free cards frequently. you could then possibly bluff later on after seeing how things develop
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10-23-2017 , 01:30 PM
Don't micro limits have very low antes? If so shouldn't be on many steals any way
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10-23-2017 , 04:27 PM
I haven't played for awhile online, but I thought they were typically high. I know they were on full tilt. Some were so high I thought they were a crapshoot. Like I think a quarter ante for 1/2 stud.
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10-23-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I haven't played for awhile online, but I thought they were typically high. I know they were on full tilt. Some were so high I thought they were a crapshoot. Like I think a quarter ante for 1/2 stud.
FTP's ante back in the day was usually 1/8th.

Stars until quite recently was 1/20th. More recently they upped it to 1/10th on a number of stake levels, but it varies level to level.

I don't know if 1/10th is considered small. I thought it was somewhere in the middle.
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10-23-2017 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS
FTP's ante back in the day was usually 1/8th.

Stars until quite recently was 1/20th. More recently they upped it to 1/10th on a number of stake levels, but it varies level to level.

I don't know if 1/10th is considered small. I thought it was somewhere in the middle.
It was reasonable for higher limits, but pretty really small for the lowest limits. like maybe it was a quarter ante for both 1/2 and 2/4.

I consider 1/10 to be small; that is the smallest I have ever seen in a live stud game. the ante for 10/20 in Atlantic City was $1, but it always felt really small and like it encouraged very tight play. Can't even imagine a 1/20 ante. I think the $3 ante for 20/40 is the sweet spot.
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