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06-14-2017
, 02:32 AM
Live 12-24 Stud8
Seat 2: [X X] 2
bring-in
Seat 3: [X X] J
folds
Seat 4: [X X] 6
completes. Player is a laggy 2+2er.
Hero : [78] 6
Seat 6: [X X] 4
Seat 7: [X X] T
Seat 8: [X X] 5
Seat 1: [X X] 7
We...??? Seems like all 3 options are viable. Players left to act are tight/solid players.
Try to get it HU? Fold because there are so many low cards out? Call and hope for a multiway pot and make a straight? We at least have the right up-card.
Seat 2: [X X] 2
bring-inSeat 3: [X X] J
foldsSeat 4: [X X] 6
completes. Player is a laggy 2+2er.Hero : [7
8] 6Seat 6: [X X] 4
Seat 7: [X X] T
Seat 8: [X X] 5
Seat 1: [X X] 7
We...??? Seems like all 3 options are viable. Players left to act are tight/solid players.
Try to get it HU? Fold because there are so many low cards out? Call and hope for a multiway pot and make a straight? We at least have the right up-card.
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06-14-2017
, 04:04 AM
06-14-2017
, 04:16 AM
I'd fold.
Nearly every doorcard is something you need to improve to a winning high hand.
Two pair cards (6, 7), a critical straight card (5), a straight and low card (4), and an emergency straight card (T) are dead. That's a lot of dead cards.
You have the worst low draw, a low-card has already shown strength, and there are plenty of players left to act behind you.
You're drawing poorly to the high and worst to the low.
Nearly every doorcard is something you need to improve to a winning high hand.
Two pair cards (6
, 7), a critical straight card (5), a straight and low card (4), and an emergency straight card (T) are dead. That's a lot of dead cards.You have the worst low draw, a low-card has already shown strength, and there are plenty of players left to act behind you.
You're drawing poorly to the high and worst to the low.
06-14-2017
, 11:08 AM
For the sake of argument, presume either the 4c or 5c plays with a low card range including low pairs and trips and the other folds:
We clearly have enough equity to see another card. The argument not to is that the situation is volatile. That would be my argument for doing so. The fourth card will usually stabilize the equities quite a bit.
I used a random card range for the 2c bring in because some people defend extremely wide and defining a defending range requires a lot of characters in the simulation. Here's what happens if the 2c folds:
| ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| dead cards: J T 7 5 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Scoops | Wins Hi | Ties Hi | Wins Lo | Ties Lo |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ** | 2c | 18.38% | 36,325 | 132,005 | 152 | 61,533 |
| 22-AA, *s*s, $L$L | 6s | 27.52% | 63,040 | 165,043 | 427 | 130,290 |
| 7c 6d 8h | 26.90% | 61,552 | 155,523 | 502 | 132,099 | 1,041 |
| $L$L 4c | 27.20% | 63,662 | 146,751 | 276 | 144,888 | 1,117 |
We clearly have enough equity to see another card. The argument not to is that the situation is volatile. That would be my argument for doing so. The fourth card will usually stabilize the equities quite a bit.
I used a random card range for the 2c bring in because some people defend extremely wide and defining a defending range requires a lot of characters in the simulation. Here's what happens if the 2c folds:
| ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| dead cards: J T 7 5 2 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Scoops | Wins Hi | Ties Hi | Wins Lo | Ties Lo |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 22-AA, *s*s, $L$L | 6s | 33.60% | 90,384 | 211,487 | 500 | 138,653 |
| 7c 6d 8h | 33.73% | 91,327 | 200,495 | 592 | 149,951 | 973 |
| $L$L 4c | 32.67% | 88,515 | 187,329 | 286 | 153,640 | 871 |
06-16-2017
, 11:13 PM
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, 12:24 AM
