Hi,

I find hole aces vs a door A completer. Any reason I should just call and let him fire to raise on 5th only, or is this raise super standard ?

Thanks

Jean

HORSE - 7 Card Stud High ($3/$6), Ante $0,25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.67 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 4___brings-in___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 7___folds
Seat 3: xx xx A___raises___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7___folds
Seat 5: xx xx T___folds
Hero: A A 9___raises
Seat 7: xx xx T___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 6___folds

4th Street - (5.00 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx A 2___calls
Hero: A A 9 9___bets

5th Street - (4.50 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx A 2 5___calls
Hero: A A 9 9 J___bets

6th Street - (6.50 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx A 2 5 7___folds
Hero: A A 9 9 J Q___bets

Total pot: (6.50 BB)

i think its a standard raise . . . . im sure he was just raising his high card and probably would have shut down by 5th

Nah, just bet your hand. wp imo.

Looks good. No reason to be letting more people into the pot or paying cheaply with drawing hands. Your hand is weak in a multiway pot with the dead ace and plays better in a heads up spot. This was achieved by raising 3rd thus making it a good play imo.

Agree w/ everything said.

The reasons for chosing to play it fast on 3rd are all valid. But, I still don't find the reraise to be super standard. Against some of the folks I play against...I don't mind dropping the hammer on 5th~6th, especially if they never ease off the gas (no matter what they hold). A lot has to do with the players behind you, and the tendencies that they possess. So, I will reraise some of the time, but I will defintely just call a lot of the times, too. Depends.

The reason I raise on 3rd is two fold.

1. It discourages this pot from being multiway.

2. Waiting til 5th or 6th, you might not get an opportunity to raise. You might find his board has gotten pretty threatening, and you are still unimproved, making it difficult to raise your single pair of aces. If you do improve, w/ an ace dead, its likely that you hit two pair, which would mean your 2nd pair would be showing. This leaves you with first action, meaning if you want to raise, you will have to go for a c/r, and its likely he will just check behind if you hit an open pair.

I agree, it's very important to get this pot heads up.



This is flawed logic.. If his board gets threatening you will be happy you didn't put in that raise early in the hand, since you're likely to be an underdog when his board gets scary.

As for the times you make an open pair, if you re-raise 3rd he may just fold when you make an open pair, putting you on a big pair in the hole. If you don't re-raise 3rd he'll likely chase when he's drawing very slim..


On the whole the re-raise is definitely better since you have people behind you that may play if you just call.. But if I'm in the bring-in (or just have the bring-in behind me), then slowplaying is definitely more profitable than re-raising. This is because villian gonna make more mistakes against you later in the hand and also you often will get a raise in on a big bet street (usually its best to wait till 6th street to raise, but that's another discussion altogether).

Ok, thanks for your answers.

WP! imo You are from the beginning better.

Yeah, with an Ace gone, you definitely want to discourage hitchhikers.

Well played OP.

Only one thing. I would like to know peoples thoughts on this. On 6th, when villain hits 7d, putting 3 diamonds on board for him, any good reasons for checking? I like checking here for 2 reasons:
1. If he started with 3 diamonds and got there now, you save yourself from getting raised.

2. if he even one diamond in the hole, he is likely to call you down and now you are faced with the decision of whether to bet again on 7th or check. (Checking 6th gives you the option to fire 7th and if you get c/r, can always fold knowing he made a big hand. Or, if you make a fullhouse, give you an option to put more $$ in ahead/ if he makes two pair also, will be more inclined to call you, thereby earning you an extra bet which you wouldnt have made by betting 6th.)

Just because you check 6th and fire 7th doesn't mean he didn't have a diamond in the hole and got there on 7th though. I definately fire 6th, and probably 7th too. I think his range is big enough that he is calling us down with a bunch of other hands. He probably is curious as to what we could be raising his ace door card with, and just wants to see it.