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05-18-2019 , 11:24 AM
PokerStars, 7 Stud H/L Limit - $1/$2 ($0.15 ante) - 3 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

Frenchinfa: $15.44 (15 bb)
78OFFTILT: $50.74 (51 bb)
newhouse: $30.45 (30 bb)

Third Street: ($0.45) Hero (78OFFTILT) is in Seat 1
Xx Xx 7 newhouse bring-in $0.40____newhouse folds
Xx Xx 9 Frenchinfa raises to $1____Frenchinfa 3-bets to $3
4 A A 78OFFTILT raises to $2____78OFFTILT calls $1

Fourth Street: ($6.85) (2 players)
4 A A 5 78OFFTILT bets $1____78OFFTILT calls $1
Xx Xx 9 K Frenchinfa raises to $2

Fifth Street: ($10.85) (2 players)
Xx Xx 9 K K Frenchinfa bets $2
4 A A 5 9 78OFFTILT calls $2

Sixth Street: ($14.85) (2 players)
Xx Xx 9 K K Q Frenchinfa bets $2
4 A A 5 9 9 78OFFTILT calls $2

Seventh Street: ($18.85) (2 players)
Xx Xx 9 K K Q Xx Frenchinfa bets $2
4 A A 5 9 9 J 78OFFTILT calls $2

Total pot: $22.85 (Rake: $0.69)

No reads prior to this point.
1) cap 3rd?
2) check or bet 4th?
3) I think 5th is a standard call?
4) 6th and 7th is where I'm pretty lost
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05-19-2019 , 12:56 PM
1) I don't cap 3rd because it's now heads up and I don't want to send over my hand.*

2) I bet 4th because it can represent a good low draw.*

3) For me it's a call if I want to represent a bricked low. But...*

4) 6th and 7th I'm going to put in as much money as I can. Unless I think I'm beat, in which case I should have raised 5th to see what was going on with villain. The only reason to smooth-call on 5th is to set the trap. As it is, I think I'm scooping. Does he have quad kings? Queens full? I'm not worried about it.*

*I don't have a clue as to what goes on in an internet 1-2 game. Someone who does will be along shortly.
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05-19-2019 , 03:56 PM
I like the capping third short handed, but if the player is observant, you might need to mix it up. If you ONLY ever raise with AA, and not a quality 3-low, you need to sometimes just call with AA.

I like the lead on 4th for Mack's reasoning above.

When he pairs 5th, you have to slow down. Even is he is some sort of maniac who would raise with a small pair, you're behind.

6th is tricky, but I like a raise. Unless he started with three clubs, including the King, he probably doesn't have three kings. If he has QQ or AA in the hole, he will re raise but I don't think you can ever fold here. Calling down might seem kind of weak, but really, you are going to HATE a re-raise, so it's not that bad.


You can't fold 6th or 7th, EVER, unless you absolutely know your opponent, and at these stakes, I have seen some plays that make me shake my head, even from some of the better players. It's a big pot, and if he found a way to beat you, those are the breaks. A lot of players aren't really adept to short handed play. They look at it as they should play more aggressively because there are going to be fewer lows out and are often overplaying two smaller pair. Hope that this is the case.
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05-20-2019 , 09:43 AM
My friend says I should fold 6th. He says based on his 3b pre and raise on 4th he should have KK, AA, QQ or a K with a 3 flush and made 3 kings, or started with 999 which is obviously eliminated after 6th.

I said he is going to bet KK vs my board when it appears I am going low, which is why I called down

He also said I should check/call on 4th because 999 is a strong possibility at that point, and he thinks that once I pair up the nines I should eliminate TT or JJ from his range
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05-20-2019 , 12:10 PM
how many hands had you played with villain when this hand occurred?
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05-20-2019 , 01:08 PM
It is three handed $1/$2 he could easily think you are on a low draw and your hand is under represented. You can’t fold.
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05-21-2019 , 08:37 PM
Your friend is over thinking.
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05-21-2019 , 09:55 PM
usually prefer to flat then put another raise in somewhere down the line.

just don't fold.
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05-22-2019 , 06:53 AM
I like calling 3rd and c/r 4th, LOL at c/c. Don't listen to your friend here. You just cannot assume you're beat right then.

5th could be a fold vs some people, but not past that point. Barring reads, I play it the same from 5th on.

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05-22-2019 , 12:24 PM
What do you think the opponent has?
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05-22-2019 , 01:56 PM
i feel like c/r 4th is prob best with 3rd like it is, but then when i actually do try it, it checks through.
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05-22-2019 , 02:34 PM
You're against an aggressive player so a check raise on 4th works, but a strait forward bet makes it look like you are pushing the low. If he thinks you were pushing a low, he will probably raise you any ways and assume you are just low. I like to see what happens on 5th street before I decide to jam here. As is, you really can't jam 5th street.
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05-22-2019 , 02:43 PM
yeah and that's also part of why i like just leading out. people play LLA4 like this anyway so our hand looks just like a 4 low draw.

IME, certain really agg players seem to love busting on low draws on 4th, nevermind that if we actually had WWA4 we're still ahead in equity even if villains are kings up lol
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05-23-2019 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS
What do you think the opponent has?
Through 4th? Wired pair, small three flush/straight, etc. Once he pairs the K and keeps firing you should slow down, but not until then imo.

Catching the 9 sure doesn't hurt and I just cannot fathom folding 6th. ****, against a maniac I'm value-raising and betting the river if checked to.

Last edited by RichGangi; 05-23-2019 at 08:15 AM.
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