i don't think a holiday will be a typical monday. i would expect a decent crowd.

Expect 1 hour + wait for seat at 1/2 in evening on Friday, Saturday and any Holiday (like this coming Monday). If you can get there before 11 am wait is typically not bad, any time after that and it can become quite long.

Forgot it's a holiday on Monday, good point, should be decent. This will be my first time out getting there later than 2pm or so, forgot about the wait tonight, hopefully it's not too bad, should get there around dinner time, maybe some relief there.

Wasn't too bad at all, got in around 7:30 on Friday, waited about 15 minutes a few people before me got seats and then they started a new game. Not sure about Monday, there might be some snow, Sunday should be busy according to the dealers, I might try to get out there Sunday night instead of Monday.

Did O8 get going last night(Friday)? Any interest in getting it started tonight?
I will be there and start the list up, it has been running regularly on a Sat. so hopefully today will be no exception. Anyone know is there any waits today?

I'll probably come out to play O8 tonight. Not quite sure what time yet, but I do hope to see it running.

Anyone there now? 5-5NL running?

I was at sands at 7 with waitlist for omaha8 at 11 people. Unfortunately they did not have any open tables and floor said they were definitely not going to open it tonight b/c of lack of tables as well as huge 1/2 waitlist. I understand the reason behind this, however like in past, I called call center first. I spoke to guy on phone and he said waitlist for O8 was 9 people at time, I then asked him if they had open tables to open it up on. He told me to wait, counted the tables and said yes there was 2 open tables and it should be opening soon. I went there based off of the call center's information the live person gave me to play O8. This is the third time this happened. I look at this like bait and switch, I call first, call center says it will be open soon, go out and floor says it will definitely not be opening. Sands really needs to get some better info to their call center, why have these interest lists up if it is impossible to fulfill them even with more than enough for a full table? Is this common at other casinos to leave interest lists up and add to them when it is not even possible to open them up? The was also some higher LHE interest lists, why give people false hopes when you call and waste your time going out there to see it is not even possible to play what you called about? This is the third time this exact thing happened to me here, I think if it happens again I am going to take my business elsewhere and have to change my name....Well had to vent, any other 2plus2ers go tonight based on a full interest list and got there just to see it was an illusion like I did? They really need to get a new system or something......

I was there over the weekend and had a great experience. The dealers have really improved since I was there four months ago. Everyone always bitched in the past that you had to get up to buy chips. Now that you can, I wish it was the other way. When someone buys in it takes so long......

Also, WTF with that young guy blonde dealer who screams at the top of his lungs 'ALL YOU CAN EAT' anytime someone goes allin. The first time it may have been a tad amusing but on the seventh time it was really annoying. I even heard him from across the room.

I gotta tell ya Omaha H/L at sands - the first time I was there, the game was great. But the next couple of times I went, one game was going with 6 people and then broke shortly. The next two times I went up, I called first and they told me there was a list (both times had 9 or 10 people), but the game never got going.

Since Omaha H/L is the only game I enjoy, it is discouraging to make the trip and "force" myself to play somethiong else or drive home.

I am about 1 hour from the Sands, Hollywood and Parx.

Parx has the online system that shows you exactly what games are actually up and running (to the second). I love it. I see and Omaha H/L (4/8 is most common) I head over. So far this game gets going daily around 2:00 pm and has a full table!

Mike

Ok so went to Sands, Sunday & the poker room was PACKED. I got their at 3 and there was a waitlist for every game. I think omaha h/l was running along with 1/2, 2/5, 5/5, 5/10 & some low limit games. There was a list for 10/20 and 30/60 so like I said it was packed. Wait times were right around an hour.

I played 2/5 and had a new table open up within 5 minutes of getting there. Couple interesting hands. I have 650 on table and cover villian. Open to 20 with A10 and get called in 2 spots. Flop A102ss, sb checks I bet 40, villian makes it 150, sb folds, I shove, A3 on turn and river. I scoop against AK for sizable pot.

Next, old nit opens to 15, I call with Q8ss along with 3 other people along. 679ss flop. Original raiser bets 20, I make it 55, sb who has been real spewy calls and original raiser folds. Turn is a Q and it's checked to me & I bet 135. SB hums and haws but makes the call & we see an offsuit K on the river. Check check & I lose to K9 no spades. Drats.

Last fun pot, I am tilted after not winning a pot in quite some time and open AJ utg+1 and 4 people come along for a flop of 233. Checks to me & I bet 50 and am called by one of the tightest guys at the table. Turn is another 2 and he shoves 150 into me. I hate my life and call. The river is the 4th 2 and I suckout against JJ.

I pick up and leave 1/2 hr or so after that a +800 winner. Much needed after a -3k Friday a couple weeks back where I broke even in poker and lost it all in craps & bj.

2 things of note.

1. Cage is now selling black ($100) chips at the poker window.

2. A guy passed out right next to me, literally same table right next to me. The floor was extremely non-chalent about the matter. Luckily there was an emt or firefighter playing a table away who seemed to handle the situation well and thank goodness the guy walked away seemingly ok, it was startling. I don't know if they didn't want to draw attention to the situation or they are just slow, but nice to see people helping people.

I like the trip report. I like to see the hand breakdowns on the thinking behind the hands, it is interesting to see from different player standpoints. I do not understand the hand you were on tilt with though.... You said the flop was 233, turn 2 and river 2 and that A hi prevailed vs. JJ due to what I think you meant to be 222 with a 2 on river to be quads/best kicker to beat a turned full house with JJ? Was flop maybe 223 and turn was 2 and river was 2? With 2232 board, how do you call a all in push vs. tightest player at table? So raised preflop to I am assuming around 20, with 4 callers, pot is 100. You bet flop for 50, one caller, pot now at 200. Guy open shoves for 150 into a 2223 board and you call with AJ? Even if he had 44-1010 in his range, still improper odds for that bet to call. What hands do you put him on that you are ahead of minus very elaborate bluffs? That seems like stack suicide to me unless you were priced in or put him on some elaborate bluff such as 45 which the tightest player would not call to a raised pot preflop IMO. Thanks again for the trip report, keep them coming, always interesting to read.

Sorry the board ran out 22322 making A high the nuts.

To clarify, he wasn't the tightest player at the table, but it was certainly a bad call. I just wanted to emphasize it was a bad call bc it wasn't like I had a good read. Also, the action played out as him shoving the turn and he was on my direct right. I thought he had 103, so i tossed in the 103 but was 52 short. I wasn't going to fold at that point. In retrospect, I don't know if I would've folded for 153 had I known the bet. As I said, I was frustrated. Either way hope that adds some clarity.

What game do you normally play?

I typically play O8 5/10. I do play NL as well but prefer O8 if it is running.

Any regulars of sands on here that play there 40+ hours a week every week. I am anxious to know if you are doing good there with the rake/bbj taken out of the win rate as well as variance now that it has been open for 6+ months. I have noticed the player pool or regs here has really shrunk down. I used to recognize almost 1/3-sometimes 1/2 of players in there, now it seems a lot of the regs are no longer here. Does anyone else share this feeling? Would love to hear some feedback on this if you play Sands 40+ hours a week still..... Also, I am thinking about moving up in stakes from 1/2 to 2/5, is the 2/5 play much different? I used to play 2/5 at Borgata about 6 years ago and did pretty well. Have mostly been playing 1/2 at Sands when O8 is not running. Heard a couple different things about 2/5 but would like to know someone's opinion that has played the 1/2 and 2/5 here a lot to get a good sample opinion of differences. Thanks guys.

lol I know who you mean. In all honesty, I kinda like it. He makes the game fun and he keeps a clean fast-paced game. Much better than some that never say a word (including action..)

Thinking about going over there tonight...think there will be an O/8 game running?

Trip report on Sands for tonight. Call the call center at 9PM to be told waitlist for 1/2 NLHE is 14 deep and there are 8 on interest list for 08. I decide to head over and get there 20 minutes later after call was placed. Get to list on wall, it is 56 deep for 1/2 NLHE. I immediately go to floor to tell them how pissed I am being the 4th time this has happened and I am told call center can't be trusted. I see two of my reg buddies and they said they were there since 3PM and it was huge waitlist for long time so I know it did not inflate from 14 to 56 in 20 minutes. So I start the night of pissed. I am placed on list and wait 1 1/2 hours til I am called.

I finally get called to 1/2 NLHE and sit in the ten seat. I am pretty card dead and not in many hands for about 2 hours. 1 seat is an aggro asian guy playing position hard and stealing many pots. Here is the hand that pissed me off beyond belief. I am in bb with 45cc, asian guy is first to act and makes it 7, 2 and 3 seat call, button calls and I toss in 5 more to see the flop. Flop comes 4h4s3h, I check, asian bets 16, 2 and 3 seat fold, button folds, I just call. Heads up, turn is 9s, I check, asian bets 30, I shove all in for 86, 56 more to asian to call into a pot of about 127. He knows he is trapped, gives off all kinds of body language, lifts his cards to literally face high and shows 2 and 3 seat his hand. He then verbalizes something to them, puts his cards down acts like he is gonna fold and then he tosses in the 56 bucks. River is 6h. He does a fist pump says yes and shows AJ hh. He hit his 7 outter and made a flush.

I tell dealer his hand is dead b/c he showed it to two other players in middle of hand before he acted. Dealer asks him if he did, asian is all taken off guard and dealer warns him. I tell dealer to call over floor, floor asks table, mostly everyone saw asian show his two cards and floor says they can just give him a warning. The guy scoops the roughly 200 pot. I get up and tell the floor that is bs and floor says i need to bring it up with higher ups that were not there that all they can do is give him a warning. It is posted right in there rules you can not do that when you enter cardroom but he gets off with warning. This is third time I am screwed here by bad ruling, first time I had AA vs. two buddies, one raise, other reraises preflop, I go all in with AA. First friend folds, second guy is ready to fold and shows his QQ to buddy, first guy says out loud he does not think I have AA because he folded AK. Buddy then calls after discussing hand with his friend that he was gonna fold and spikes a Q for set. I flipped out this time too and nothing was done.

What is your guys experience at other cardrooms with such instances? I am beyond mad and do not know if I will go to this casino anymore with how angry I am at both call center as well as several really bad rulings IMO. Did anyone else experience really bad rulings at this place? I would hate to stop going there b/c it is so close, but I do not know if I can be happy there again. Please give me some feedback and any thoughts.... Am I out of line or would you also be pissed? This did happen just a half hour ago so I am still really pissed about it.....

Yeah if I were you, I'd just take a break for a solid week or more... let things cool down a bit. It's only going to make you more angry if you go every trip and already have things in the back of your mind that are already bothering you. I agree Sands needs to work on or invest in some type of better coordination system to show patrons what is actually available on bigger screens higher up on the walls or under their TV's so everyone can see them, as well as maybe an up to the minute internet site that shows what is being offered at those exact times. To me it seems like most of the floor personnel are spending 80-90% of their time helping people find tables and setting up new tables when that shouldn't have to be their main job description. I would rather see more floor people around the cardrooms looking over to see if games are running smoothly or not and being readily available to give final rulings on hands quicker. It seems like every 20 minutes the dealers are constantly having to yell for "floor" when all they are looking to do is letting the floor people know that they are reloading someone with more than $100 in chips... Just tonight we had to wait what seemed like 5 minutes just for our dealer to locate a floor person just to be able to help someone rebuy for $200 worth of chips, it definitely slows the game down and brings unwanted attention to your table when everyone is shouting "FLOOR!" every 10 seconds..

My experience is this is the type of ruling you will get in every card room I have played in in AC as well as Vegas. Always a warning first for this type of violation. The hand discussion example is much more blatant (AA Hand) and dealer should have intervened in that case, but showing the cards to other players usually results in a warning.

That wait list being so off is terrible and if it is the norm it is certainly a reason to play elsewhere if possible...maybe call directly to the room.. IDK

You are just mad at the results in both spots ...a bit of a sore loser...Last night him showing his cards to his neighbors did nothing to affect the hand at all bad river sucks for you wanting his hand dead here is ridiculous unless he got some type of advice.

Second hand with aa vs qq that hand was much worse as there was more than one player to a hand with the ak telling the qq that he had an ace...though it ended up making him make the play in your favor by calling ...even though you got 2 outed on the river.

So last night not so bad the other hand was a problem..Have been much worse
injustices in a poker room.

Step back take a break and keep getting your money in like this and things will get better...you just ran bad on those 2 flops

Grunching: how difficult is it to maintain a simple game report on website or update twitter, at minimum?

Also, in addition to the game report/wait lists, why are the more interruptions in gameplay here?

- Floor called over to verify rebuy/adding chips
- Chiprunner comes to fill dealer tray (must count out the cash $, verify, etc)
- Floor called over for handrulings

etc...

Thank you for all the replies guys. Woke up this morning still feeling as though I was in a car accident last night. In response to the poster that mentioned I only did this after he got lucky on the river, I did say something to the dealer on turn when villain was showing his hand to his two neighbors that just folded flop. He also said something to them on turn after showing his two cards. I asked the dealer what was going on and told him it is one person per hand. Like previously stated, this is not the first time rulings here were inconsistent or bothering to me. I have played poker here now about 80times since it opened and have seen many other inconsistent rulings on same thing. Was playing about 2 weeks ago when board was AA255, hand was checked all the way down 5 handed, relatively small pot. Guy bet like 25 into about a 12 dollar pot. Guy next to me said what could you have, better showed a 2. Neighbor called over floor and said guy showed one card to table and floor ruled his hand dead. I happened to have the five and called and won after floor ruled this guys hand dead. I just sat there and said nothing that time and his hand was ruled dead with no warning. I also saw on two occasions when 2 players were heads up that one showed other his hand to try to get reaction and his hand was ruled dead by dealer on the spot. This is almost same thing as last night with villain showing 2 players his hand. Early on in casino's opening I have seen two people show other player their hand in heads up and dealer said you are allowed to show hand when heads up only. If you were there and saw how high he lifted them and completely angled them in front of two players and then said something, I really think you would understand my anger more. Even if I would of won, I would of still been pissed off just because of constant things like this happening there. When he said something to two players, how do I know he did not say did either of you have a heart in hand? Maybe paranoid, but what could he of said to these two guys?

That is a lousy situation, even if the villian was drawing to a 2-outer.

To your earlier question regarding regs, I personally don't play 40 hours a week, but I have noticed fewer familar faces, and more limpers. It's almost normal to see 8-9 limpers to a flop, which really does'nt help anyone except the rake.