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12-01-2014 , 04:02 PM

#5651

Mike_The_Mad

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,867

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveygravy

Dec 15th.

1-2 60/300
1-3 100/500
2-5 200/1000
5-10 500/2000

Weeeeeeee this should be fun

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12-01-2014 , 05:55 PM

#5652

PASANDSMAN

adept

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 716

Davey,

Will the chinese poker tables also open up on the 15th? Pineapple and regular ofcp?

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12-01-2014 , 06:15 PM

#5653

[x] swanny

formerly Nepa

Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,306

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveygravy

Dec 15th.

1-2 60/300
1-3 100/500
2-5 200/1000
5-10 500/2000

2/5 at 200 to 1k is a much better game than 100 to 500...if the bi is too high stay at 1/2

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12-01-2014 , 06:43 PM

#5654

midas

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,514

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveygravy

Dec 15th.

1-2 60/300
1-3 100/500
2-5 200/1000
5-10 500/2000

Why is there much overlap in the ranges? I know it's customary but why not match bankrolls better? Like this :

1-1. Max $100
1-3. 100/500
5- 10. 500/1000
10-20 1000/2000

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12-01-2014 , 07:12 PM

#5655

Mike_The_Mad

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,867

Quote:

Originally Posted by midas

Why is there much overlap in the ranges? I know it's customary but why not match bankrolls better? Like this :

1-1. Max $100
1-3. 100/500
5- 10. 500/1000
10-20 1000/2000

Because people are habitual and if you stray to far from what they're used to and comfortable with in the majority of the the poker rooms you run risk. I think they're restructuring the most secure way they can. It will be interesting.

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12-01-2014 , 07:14 PM

#5656

Mike_The_Mad

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,867

Quote:

Originally Posted by [x] swanny

2/5 at 200 to 1k is a much better game than 100 to 500...if the bi is too high stay at 1/2

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I really don't think this restructuring is going to change many peoples buyins all that much. Thinking regulars obviously know its advantageous to buy in deeper but the everyday Joe who just wants to come play 2/5 will still buy in for $500-$600 or less and top off or rebuy. I'm most interested in what the 1/3 lineup will look like but happy to be able to buy into the 2/5 deep as well.

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12-01-2014 , 07:42 PM

#5657

Playbig2000

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,387

From ny experience when other rooms I played in went from 500 to 1K max only a few bought in for max and most people still bought in for their same 500 dollar buy in

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12-01-2014 , 07:52 PM

#5658

TheDarkElf

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,667

Isn't the max buy in at 2-5 currently $600?

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12-01-2014 , 09:13 PM

#5659

badboynyc

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkElf

Isn't the max buy in at 2-5 currently $600?

Yes, for 2 more weeks.

I'm interested to see if the 2/5 player base changes but I can't really see much of a change, as mentioned some will continue to buy in at the 500-600 range and most will be at or near 1K.

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12-01-2014 , 09:43 PM

#5660

NickMPK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11,569

Quote:

Originally Posted by midas

In cash NL, blinds don't matter, buy-ins and stack sizes are the main issue.

Who are the players that Sands is trying to satisfy by adding 1/3? Are there really a lot of players who want to buy in for $500 but aren't willing to play 2/5?

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12-01-2014 , 10:09 PM

#5661

Mike_The_Mad

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,867

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickMPK

Who are the players that Sands is trying to satisfy by adding 1/3? Are there really a lot of players who want to buy in for $500 but aren't willing to play 2/5?

Thats a good question but I think the 1/3 is a competative experiment. Think the root reason behind the restructuring is to stop the 5/5 & 5/10 conflict.

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12-01-2014 , 11:19 PM

#5662

trixter23

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 584

Quote:

Originally Posted by [x] swanny

2/5 at 200 to 1k is a much better game than 100 to 500...if the bi is too high stay at 1/2

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This is the exact reason why initially don't like the change. Recreational players will wonder over to 2/5 and see the stack sizes way higher than usual, and be afraid to sit. I don't have a lot of experience with stake changes, so maybe this isn't so. I guess we'll have to wait a few months to see what happens.

However, I do like the fact that there will be deeper play overall.

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12-01-2014 , 11:46 PM

#5663

badboynyc

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixter23

I understand that point but honestly how many recs will walk over to a 2/5 and not sit because of stack sizes? Better chance they have been thinking about it for a while or are moving up because of a friend is sitting at 2/5 and convinces them it's much better than 1/2.

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12-01-2014 , 11:55 PM

#5664

TheDarkElf

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,667

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboynyc

More likely they will play the "in between" game - 1/3.

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12-02-2014 , 12:01 AM

#5665

badboynyc

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 44

That's true they wouldn't even make it to the 2/5 they would just check out 1/3 first. I don't know what's going to happen but I'll give it a few sessions once it changes and let you guys know how I feel about it then.

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12-02-2014 , 12:16 AM

#5666

chunkit4wanton

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 158

When does the 10/25 game typically start on tues/fri?
Does it run on other days/how long does the game
Usually run for?

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12-02-2014 , 01:24 AM

#5667

Julius187

adept

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,084

I think this system will be fine as long as 1/3 actually runs. Parx tried doing this same thing and the 1/3 never got off the ground.

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12-02-2014 , 01:30 PM

#5668

FlyLikeABird

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,679

It won't get off here either

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12-02-2014 , 02:56 PM

#5669

samo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,251

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickMPK

Who are the players that Sands is trying to satisfy by adding 1/3? Are there really a lot of players who want to buy in for $500 but aren't willing to play 2/5?

+1.

In my $1/$2 NL sample size most players don't BI for $300, so I would expect the same at $1/$3. Otherwise most movers will opt for $2/$5 NL, imo - especially for the extra $0.30/hr comp

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12-02-2014 , 03:15 PM

#5670

Playbig2000

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,387

I know 2 players who are very excited about the 1/3. If it's not popular, so what we have a deep 2/5 game now

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12-02-2014 , 05:08 PM

#5671

PASANDSMAN

adept

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 716

Quote:

Originally Posted by samo

+1.

In my $1/$2 NL sample size most players don't BI for $300, so I would expect the same at $1/$3. Otherwise most movers will opt for $2/$5 NL, imo - especially for the extra $0.30/hr comp

Is that true extra .30hr for 2/5? Confirm please...

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12-02-2014 , 06:15 PM

#5672

Mike_The_Mad

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,867

Quote:

Originally Posted by PASANDSMAN

Is that true extra .30hr for 2/5? Confirm please...

Im not certain but I put in 20 hours this month at 2/5 from a 0 comp balance and ran good on my weekly $10 slot play and have $27 comp dollars now. It seems like it may be $1/hr.

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12-03-2014 , 08:49 AM

#5673

samo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,251

Quote:

Originally Posted by PASANDSMAN

Is that true extra .30hr for 2/5? Confirm please...

I only play poker and have received $1/hr comp at $2/$5 NL. I'm not certain if $1/$2 NL comp is still $0.70.

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12-03-2014 , 04:14 PM

#5674

JackHallow64

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 57

any chance of getting any more details on the main event or the side events in january such as starting stacks, level lengths?

thanks

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12-03-2014 , 05:27 PM

#5675

badboynyc

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackHallow64

any chance of getting any more details on the main event or the side events in january such as starting stacks, level lengths?

thanks

Davey usually posts that info as the events get close, the website just has the dates and buyins for now.

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