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07-24-2010 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bored5000
Warning: tl;dr.

Made my first visit to the Sands on Friday, and it was one of the best nights I have ever had playing poker. After nearly a decade of playing fairly regularly in Atlantic City, I finally got my first piece of a bad beat jackpot at the Sands on Friday night. The BBJ hand was quad 10s over quad 2s. The quad 2s hand was worth a little over $9,200, the quad 10s was worth $4,600+ and my table share of the BBJ was $579.97.

Anyway, I was playing for about 45 minutes at a 3/6 LHE table Friday night when the BBJ hand happened. I had some garbage hand that I immediately folded. The flop came 10,10,2. I wasn't really paying much attention, since I was not in the hand. But I know there was a bet and a call of the flop. The turn brought another 2, and I still wasn't overly interested in the hand. The guy on my right leaned over and whispered, "That's an interesting board." I kinda shrugged him off, and didn't do much more than politely chuckle.

As soon as the turn card came out, two guys at the other end of the table began raising and reraising each other. I never really put anyone on quads, so I was almost certain they both had 10s fulls of 2s. The instant the player with quad 2s was all in and flipped over his hand, the young kid with quad 10s slammed them on the table and screamed, "I have four 10s." For a split second, it seemed like I was the only player at the table other than the two guys in the hand that realized it was a bad beat hand.

It took about two hours for us to get paid. Basically, the two hours were spent with everyone at the table mingling among themselves and replaying the hand to one another. The casino brought out a huge "Bad Beat Jackpot Pending" sign and placed it on the table while the floor manager verified the hand, watched the dealer count down the deck and checked the video of the hand to make sure it was legit.

Even though the BBJ pool was relatively small by BBJ standards, it was still super cool to be part of a BBJ. I can't even imagine what it must be like to be at a BBJ table when it is worth $200-300,000 like sometimes happens in Atlantic City.

The whole time we were sitting at the table waiting for everything to be verified, we had two old guys at the table bitching about how long it was taking. It seemed like the height of douchebaggery to be sitting at a table nursing a $50 stack, then complain that it was taking too long to collect a $580 share of a hand they weren't even in.

The dealer (Brandon) seemed super cool and genuinely grateful for whatever money the table tipped him. I had $66 in my stack and gave him my stack. Most of the table shares seemed to tip $40-60. I know both the winning and losing hands took care of the dealer, but I don't know for exactly how much. Brandon said several times that whatever money anyone tipped him from the BBJ was going into rebuilding his own poker roll. He said he is a $5/10 NLHE player in Atlantic City.

I was shocked when the guy with the four deuces returned to the table to play some more 3/6 LHE after winning nearly 10 grand. I told him he had to start playing real loose aggressive to give back $9,200 while playing 3/6 LHE. The player that hit the $9,200 offered to buy both the deck and the "Bad Beat Jackpot Pending" sign, but the floor manager declined the offer.

I played for about another 45 minutes, but I wasn't into the game. It was so much fun to be a part of a BBJ, even if it was a tiny one.
Great story. Congrats on being in the right place at the right time. Those old guys with $50 in their stack should be thanking someone and not bitching. I hate people like that.
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07-24-2010 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BBB624
Great story. Congrats on being in the right place at the right time. Those old guys with $50 in their stack should be thanking someone and not bitching. I hate people like that.
Great first post. LOL. I was trying not to make it too long and boring. My table share of the BBJ was not a gigantic amount of money, but it was so neat to be at the table when a bad beat jackpot hit. I was never even in a room when a BBJ jackpot hit prior to Friday night.

One of the old guys doing the bitching had to be in his mid 80s and said he had never played poker before. I certainly could believe it. He was the stereotypical low-limit player from hell -- unable to see the board, betting out of turn, trying to check when there is a bet ahead of him, exposing his hand with people yet to act behind him, trying to bet $6 on the flop and $3 on the turn and the river.

I tried to explain to him four or five times what exactly happened and why the game suddenly came to a screeching halt. I am still fairly certain he had no idea why we got the free moneyz. I felt like telling him I have paid many thousands of dollars in rake in my lifetime to get this $580 BBJ cut, so savor the moment. LOL

Conversely, I also had a couple players at my table that said they were only sitting at a LHE game because they were hopelessly buried 50-deep on the waiting list for 1-2 NLHE.

Last edited by Bored5000; 07-24-2010 at 11:13 AM.
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07-24-2010 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Bored5000
Great first post. LOL. I was trying not to make it too long and boring. My table share of the BBJ was not a gigantic amount of money, but it was so neat to be at the table when a bad beat jackpot hit. I was never even in a room when a BBJ jackpot hit prior to Friday night.

One of the old guys doing the bitching had to be in his mid 80s and said he had never played poker before. I certainly could believe it. He was the stereotypical low-limit player from hell -- unable to see the board, betting out of turn, trying to check when there is a bet ahead of him, exposing his hand with people yet to act behind him, trying to bet $6 on the flop and $3 on the turn and the river.

I tried to explain to him four or five times what exactly happened and why the game suddenly came to a screeching halt. I am still fairly certain he had no idea why we got the free moneyz. I felt like telling him I have paid many thousands of dollars in rake in my lifetime to get this $580 BBJ cut, so savor the moment. LOL

Conversely, I also had a couple players at my table that said they were only sitting at a LHE game because they were hopelessly buried 50-deep on the waiting list for 1-2 NLHE.
LOL thanks... I am not to far from the Bethlehem Sands so I definitely plan on going there a lot. Im just not ready to wait hours upon hours for a 1-2 or 2-5 NL seat. Hopefully they make some changes...fast.

Old people are very annoying at tables. Whether its cash or a tournament, they slow down the game tremendously. Im with you man. If im sitting behind a stack of 60 or 70 dollars and a bad beat hits and im getting a share of $500 plus, i'd be willing and patient enough to wait as long as I had to. Especially when your getting almost 10/1 on the remaining stack.
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07-24-2010 , 12:05 PM
any waitlist update? i am headed there soon if its reasonable
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07-24-2010 , 12:39 PM
Wait list looks around 15-20 people. There was no wait till around 11am
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07-24-2010 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by guass138
Wait list looks around 15-20 people. There was no wait till around 11am
For 1/2 nl
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07-24-2010 , 12:48 PM
cool thanks headed over now
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07-24-2010 , 12:59 PM
31 on wait list now
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07-24-2010 , 01:11 PM
Has anyone heard any talks about adding more tables?
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07-24-2010 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BBB624
Has anyone heard any talks about adding more tables?
The state has to approve additional floor space for poker which I heard should take 6+ months. In the meantime, they are looking at a smaller expansion by putting the tables in a different configuration and possibly removing the lounge seating to squeeze some more tables into the existing floor space. Even this will take a couple months though. I'm sure everyone would like to see that happen sooner but the important thing to note is that management realizes the issues and is working to solve as quickly as the state and the Sands will allow.
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07-24-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lehigh98
The state has to approve additional floor space for poker which I heard should take 6+ months. In the meantime, they are looking at a smaller expansion by putting the tables in a different configuration and possibly removing the lounge seating to squeeze some more tables into the existing floor space. Even this will take a couple months though. I'm sure everyone would like to see that happen sooner but the important thing to note is that management realizes the issues and is working to solve as quickly as the state and the Sands will allow.
Thanks for the update.
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07-24-2010 , 03:31 PM
I am actually the guy that won with the Quad 10's last night. I glad you enjoyed it. I do apoligize if i over reacted after winning the hand, I did realize it before the cards were flipped what was happening and got emotional. I wanted to stop talking about it due to the fact the rest of the table didnt win as much with the attention and the excitement it was tough. Yea those 2 older guys annoyed me but i liked them there they donated quite a bit to the table before the hand even happened....Which player were you, where were you sitting?
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07-24-2010 , 04:49 PM
Room Status

3-6 limit - 2 tables - 17 on list
1-2 NL - 8 tables - 98 on list
2-5 NL - 1 table - 50 on list
1-5 7 Stud - 1 table - 10 on list

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07-24-2010 , 06:03 PM
They just opened 5-10 NL
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07-24-2010 , 06:50 PM
Waiting list for 1/2 was 127 just now
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07-24-2010 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LondonBroil
Waiting list for 1/2 was 127 just now
HOLY CRAP !!! 127 in line to play.

I've been thinking that maybe the reason the rooms are slow to fill seats sometimes is that they want to keep the list as high as possible so they can demonstrate demand to the state of PA with the idea that that can build a 50 table room....which they'll want/need for tourneys.

would like to know how long it takes to burn through that list.
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07-24-2010 , 07:13 PM
Ugh how long they take to run down a 127 list? lol Around what time does the list stop growing?

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07-24-2010 , 07:56 PM
WOW.... a list of 127... That's really high. If I were anywhere from 50-127 I would just drive to AC. By the time they get a seat in Bethlehem they will have 2 hours logged already in Jersey.
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07-24-2010 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LondonBroil
Waiting list for 1/2 was 127 just now
Can you put CH on the 1/2 list? I'm on my way and would gladly return the favor.
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07-24-2010 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mdelcorso
They just opened 5-10 NL

Nice!!! Any updates on this?
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07-24-2010 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cdh_2
Can you put CH on the 1/2 list? I'm on my way and would gladly return the favor.
Sorry, I was walking out when I made that post. The wife was up $110 in blackjack and wanted to lock up a win.
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07-24-2010 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kickboygk
I am actually the guy that won with the Quad 10's last night. I glad you enjoyed it. I do apoligize if i over reacted after winning the hand, I did realize it before the cards were flipped what was happening and got emotional. I wanted to stop talking about it due to the fact the rest of the table didnt win as much with the attention and the excitement it was tough. Yea those 2 older guys annoyed me but i liked them there they donated quite a bit to the table before the hand even happened....Which player were you, where were you sitting?
Sup, bro? Glad to see you join the board. I was wondering if anyone else from the table was on 2+2. I kinda figured the old guys on my left were probably not 2+2ers. I was the fat guy in the Reading Royals shirt that also graduated from KU. I didn't think your reaction was out of line at all for a $4,600 score. It was shocking for a few moments when you spiked your hand and people started to realize what just happened. I only won $580, and even I was stoked to be at a BBJ table because I have been playing for so long and never even seen one hit.

Without seeing either of your hands until they were flipped over, I thought it was just a pedestrian 10s full of 2s when the raising started on the turn.

I kinda thought the big production the guy with the quad 2s made shortly before the BBJ hit about trying to kill the old guy's hand was just an angle shoot. The old guy exposed his hand too soon, but it was obviously a chopped pot. IMO, chop it up and move on to the next hand. No reason to try and angle the guy who didn't know what he was doing out of half the pot.

The thing that made me really nervous about the BBJ until everything was verified is that unless PA has different poker rules than Atlantic City, the guy with the quad 2s should not have been able to move all in the way he did after a couple reraises on the turn. Even though the cap is off when heads up, he still should have had to raise $6 at a time until one of you was all in.

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07-25-2010 , 03:22 AM
I have actually had an account with 2 plus 2 for a while now. I just forgot my password. I normally do not like these type of sites because they are usually bad beat story after bad beat story and I do not like hearing them unless there is a jackpot involved lol. Anytime just let me know though more than glad to talk a little glad to hear someone elses version of the story and unbiased at that. I had a good time.
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07-25-2010 , 10:54 AM
ok..

Just went through 60+ posts.Most of which are waiting list info and how they need more tables.Now that we have established wait list updaters and logistic proffesionals,is there any1 interested in sharing some strat according to the abilities of players at these tables(all stakes)?

LAGs?
TAGs?
Teams?
Fish?
Sharks?

Being that I'm going to be at sands tomorrow morning,I would greatly appreciate an opinion or 2 on what to expect from the play there.Ty much ..
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07-25-2010 , 02:23 PM
Any update on the 5-10 nl?
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