My reasons for going to firekeepers is, I like to play long sessions.... if I am down a bit at 2am... I will keep playing till wherever... I've done many 12 to 20 hour sessions at firekeepers...

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Anyone interested in buying my $1100 mspt certificate? It's for Day 1b Friday May 18.. I want to play day 1c instead

Sold for $700 congrats to the one bidder

???? Really ... Buyer is doing cartwheels in the street on this one. DM me next time and I'll take better care of you. GL

Should have donated it to the needy. (Me!)

I have a $250 certificate. I think I'm gonna try to get at least 2 more and just buy in to the main with them instead of playing any $250s.

Best of luck to anyone trying to book a room at firekeepers for the MSPT

Any update on the new Poker Room ar GL? I'm going to be moving to the area soon and FireKeepers just seems like a long haul so another option would be good. Also I'm just not super familiar with a charity rooms but maybe they are good to play at also.

Yeah, it's opening in September and hopefully it's can run 2-5 on a reg basis.. I think it will be a very popular room

The status of 2/5 games at GL will depend on how they size the 1/2 (1/3?) table stakes. There are a variety of reasons that 2/5 runs more at MCC, but I think one of them is because the 1/2 BI is capped at $200.

I think this area ... and I already suggested this to the charity rooms before the chip cap was put in place ... would do just fine with a 1/2 (50-200) and a 1/3 (200-400) structure. This would allow the players who want to play bigger to get away from the short stacks while still 'fooling' some of them into playing a red chip game without calling it a red chip game.

Greektown was pretty successful running what they called a 1-2-400 game. It was a 1/2 game with a $400 min table stake.

The biggest 'test' for GL higher stake tables will be whether or not they can bite into the home game scene on a consistent basis .. and then you have the added distraction of the pits that a lot of bigger players indulge in.

Joey ... don't worry about the charity rooms, you should find all the action you need. We had almost $6k on the main table at Westgate Saturday night by 10 PM. GL

As much as I would love dual offerings of a 1/2 capped game for shortstackers and 1/3 deep game im not sure most low stakes players would really know or appreciate the difference. 75% of the people at these stakes just want to see flops and play bingo, and 1/2 provides them that.

I dont know how many times I see some reg at 1/2 nursing a $50 stack for an hour finally bust, then buy right back in for $300. The stack depth means so little to them.

Firekeepers tried this for a while where the 1/3 NL was a "match the stack" game and 1/2 was 200 max. Eventually 1/3 fizzled and they just raised the cap on 1/2 to $400.

I enjoy playing 200bb deep but sitting with 1k at 2/5 is a bit outside my comfort level. Im not too sure how different playing 2/5 with $500 would be from 1/2 with $400, but until Im a little more comfortably rolled I will probably stick to deep 1/2. Even though sometimes, like last night, I land at a table where the average stack is $100.

The biggest changes from 1/2 to 2/5 that I have seen is that 3-bets need to be taken a bit more seriously, players tend to float less and there's way less 'thin' value betting on the River as players don't want to get c/r and will take a showdown just fine. The game is much slower as well, which is a detractor at FKeepers. There are a few pretty deep players that wont play 2/5 since it plays tighter and has slower decision making. GL

PS ... Slower decision making doesn't necessarily mean 'better' decisions are being made!!

I'd played 2-5 at firekeepers and for me it makes more sense to play 1-2 with more cash to be made there.... I make 300-1000 profit 7 out of 10 sessions. And I'll take that

Someone was saying they thought it might be 14 tables, any idea if that's true? Wondering what the tournament action would be if any.

Did you have different flavored oat meal today? I guess you are 'hoping' v fact . But there would need to be a pretty big increase in the 2/5 player pool in WM to sustain it at GLake (with 'daily' 2/5 a pipe dream for sure) since it will be taking from the Fkeepers player pool, thus diluting both. Is there enough new player interest from the pits, that will be the key.

One of the reasons I play 2/5-5/10 is just to play in a bigger game. I would really have to sit down in my head if I was to look at game choice based on profitability.

12 for sure, probably 14. I don't think they have a 'Director of Poker' in place as of yet. Hopefully they don't promote from within without prior experience. I don't think the casino director will let them go cheap/weak. They wont be able to pull anything over on WM players as there's just too much experience in our player pool!

Most casinos have the same formula, it's just a matter of what time they try to host their 'daily' tournaments. WM is abundant with small stake (>$100) tournament players so it would be very unwise for them to ignore those folks. GL

IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME

Here's what I'm thinking for Gun Lake's poker room.

1-2, with a small possibility for 1-3, but no 2-5. $50-$200 or $300 BI .

1-2 tables weekdays, 3-4 tables weeknights, 6 on Fri nights, 8 on Sat nights. I don't always see a game going in the early morning hours.

36 man $50 nightly tourneys with a 60 man $100 weekly and a 100 man $200+ tourney every so often.

$1/hr comps. Probably a bad beat jackpot. Maybe table side food service.

It's going to be fun speculating the next few months what the poker room will be like. I'm trying to keep expectations tempered.

Job Listings for a poker room manager are still up on Indeed, as well as a listing for the poker dealer school. Gun Lake had a job fair yesterday. Obviously, it's going to take time to hire and train, which is why I think a Labor Day opening makes sense.

September feels like forever away. But hey, after 7 years, what's a few more months?

I've heard some firekeepers dealers might defect, and definitely some regulars as well. I'm hoping FK can at least keep 2 tables going on weeknights, because I live pretty close to it and would have no other realistic weeknight options.

[QUOTE=SonMoney;53753965]IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME[/QUOTE]

Yeah, 100% defecting especially the one that lives 5 minutes from GL. I just hope we can come together as a community and make this a great room.

Is it true that Soaring Eagle burned bridges with the HPT somehow?

I wonder if Gun Lake could become the new MI destination for HPT since FK has a partnership with MSPT.

Not sure what happened at SE, certainly could be many things. SE was touting their $300? the weekend before as 'Event #1' when it's highly unlikely HPT was getting anything out of it.

Not sure what's in the contract with MSPT, but Milwaukee hosts 4 MSPTs plus is a WSOPc site as well for the last 2 years. I didn't see any cameras in the event center in Milwaukee, but I didn't look very hard either. Poto also brought in WSOPc Dealers to help with the load ... a choice that kept their employees happy (and the cash games flowing).

I can't imagine MSPT being able to control a casino's tournament choices. It could be that FK's event center is not up to par with cameras/technology or management's blessing to expand it's use. I can't imagine that SE had anything better than FK does, so that would wipe out a Gaming issue IMO.

Could it be as simple as FK is too close to Ameristar for them to host an event? It seems Hollywood Toledo tries to give the tournament players opportunities during the year but I'm not sure what facilities they have down there to handle the extra volume ... or any of the 3 in Detroit.

FK will have to really put some thought into this ... and they have plenty of notice. Wouldn't it be interesting if Kelly jumped ship! GL

Kelly has the resume.. I'd rather look at April though... Btw Milwaukee has a great poker scene, but the room isn't ran good

April has a pretty short fuse. I heard of another incident where she (as described) didn't wait too long before racking a guy up ... and of course it broke the game. GL

Damn, I was playing the $125 bounty, not to long ago and one of the new male floors kicked a guy out of tournament for not racking up his chips during a table change. It was the guys first time at firekeepers and he was beyond angry

Catching a ride to blue Chip tomorrow. Been a couple years since I played there, but I fully know what to expect

That's pretty unnecessary. Floor should give a warning if it's obvious the player was a newbie and made an honest mistake.

Did the player talk back, or something? Or did the floor snap-kick him?

I don't play many tourneys there, but the floormen kinda just plop the racks on the tables without giving instructions sometimes. I don't think it's laziness - They're just seeing a bunch of regs and not thinking about the visitors peppered in here in there.