Doubt you'll get it on Dec 31. http://www.venetian.com/Pages.aspx?id=466

Hmm.. It doesn't say anything about black out days however you may be right about not getting that price on new years eve.

I got it on new years eve last year.

question re: the poker room rate.

I saw it was 6hrs/day of play. is it a strict 6 hrs per day? Or could I play 0 hrs one day, and 12 the next? The reason I'm asking is my flight doesnt get it my first night until 8pm, so obv it would be quite difficult to get 6 hrs the first night (especially after a 6+ hr flight from NYC)

It's avg.

So you could do 8 and 4, or 2 7 and 9, etc? Good to know.

If you're staying 1 night, which day matters, the check-in or check-out day? Or must you do both? Same question applies for multi-night stay (say 4 days/3 nights, which 3 days count?)

They check your Grazie card so if you stayed 1 night and have 6+ hours during that period (from check in to check out) then you get the poker rate.

Just returned from a few days in Vegas and wanted to add a few comments regarding the V:

The 10-20 O8 ran on Fri eve (i think) in the salon. It was dangerously close to running on Saturday but never caught fire. Would be great if they get this going. I played some 4-8 but the rake is obviously an issue over the long term though the game is soft and beatable even when downing multiple Jameson on the rocks. I should know. there were usually 1-2 feeder games and a main game running.

Excellent work by the floor staff, as per usual. Example: I was playing 2-5NL when a girl came and asked what game it was, then sat. Less than 60secs later, Richard the floorman came over and tapped her on the shoulder and essentially busted her for trying to rat-hole. She scored big on another table and wanted to buy in small on our table to "protect her win". Richard told her she would have to wait an hour before doing that. Might not seem like a big deal, but just the fact that he insta-noticed and didn't hesitate i think speaks volumes in terms of the attention to detail that sets the V apart. It's not a loose operation. Kudos to them for having this rule and enforcing it. If this happened at the Commerce, for example, no one would have noticed or cared imo because the floormen would be collectively grab-assing with the regs in the corner somewhere (if they had/enforced no rat-holing rule).

I love how all the employees in the room appear to be communicating telepathically like Vulcans. Whenever the Floor or chip-runner are needed the dealer sends out a telepathic signal fire and one appears. Nobody has to stand up and yell "FLOOOORRRR-MMAANNN!!!!!!" Pretty sweet.

Small nitpick: The dealers were imo pretty strong across the board. Fast and competent. However, unlike any other time i have played there, many of them didn't ask for your player's card when I sat this trip and i missed out on a couple hrs total of comps. Now i don't care at all about the hrs missed, nor do I think they're obligated to ask if i have a card when i sit (comps are a privelege not a right), but they used to do it near 100% of the time and i got lazy about remembering to scan when i sat there i guess. Wonder if they've mandated something different these days or if it's just a coinkidink that i wasn't asked too often?

Lastly, the 2-5NL games were pretty crappy. Not sure if it's the state of NL/the economy these days or what but I was only on maybe one good table out of like 5. The rest were nit-fests and even if i started bombing away, no action developed. Waste of everyone's time imo. The games were much juicier in the summer. Looks like all the action has moved to PLO.

Nice work V. Oh, and imo the perfume smells better than the dirty ash-tray smell pervading in most casinos. Stick with it.

I just got back from three days at the Venetian and I agree.

The Venetian is the best and most comfortable room to play in, but the $2/$5 and $5/$10 action seems to be much better at the Bellagio.

the venetian has a better room, but in terms of action, it comes nowhere close to the bellagio. main reason why high stakes cash players only play at the bellagio when they're in vegas.

How far walk is The V and the Poker room from the nearest Monorail stop - Harrahs?

Feels like miles. But, in reality, if you know where your going, its a 15min walk.

lol... the dealer pushes a button to alert the chip runners.

I'll be in Vegas from Christmas through New Years. When I was there a couple months ago they were trying to get a $15-30 limit game going, but it never got started. So I played the $8-16 a little bit, but around 9:00pm or so, all the old timers from the old Mirage $10-20 game came over and slowed down the game to a crawl. It's was a little painful.

Does the Venetian ever get the $15-30 limit hold 'em game going yet or should I stick to Bellagio?

Doh! I see there is a whole thread about the 8-16 through 30-60, so ignore my post above... sorry!

I got very annoyed at two dealers and the floor staff on the Friday night/Saturday morning graveyard shift.

In two hands at two different 1-2 no-limit tables, the same scenario occured at showdown.

With all board cards dealt and the river action complete in small pots, players started turning over their hands. Both times, there was one novice player who "tabled" a single Ace and left his other card face down. In each situation, the cards were "tabled" touching or behind the betting line (meaning the cards were close to the player). In both hands, Ace-anything was gonig to win the pot (once Ace-high was good and the other time a pair of Aces was good).

In both hands, the dealers, clearly seeing that Ace-anything would win the pot, reached out, somewhat quickly, grabbed the players' cards and mucked them. Then, they pushed the pot to the best hand which was properly tabled. In neither hand did the dealer say anything at all to the player who had the Ace hand. There was no effort whatsoever by either dealer to clarify what the player with the Ace was intending to do. In both hands, the player who had the mucked Ace was stunned by his hand being taken away and the pot being awarded to the inferior properly tabled hand.

Both times I thought the dealers were intentionally mucking the winning hand maliciously. I got the impression they were "teaching the novice a lesson" by taking a pot away from them which the dealer clearly had to know would go to them once they turned over their second card.

I talked to the floor after each instance. Both times I got the standard "both cards need to be tabled in order to claim a pot" argument. However, I was never trying to get the pot pushed to another player by that point.

I was trying to emphasize to the floor that both dealers were either not following a proper procedure, following an extremely bad procedure (which I doubt), or intentionally trying to harm a novice player. But, the floor never seemed to get the point.

Dynasty,

I can see one dealer, but two...wow. Well, I can only hope the dealers were not "teaching a novice a lesson" as that is just wrong. I will never understand why some dealers would rather kill a hand and create controversy when all they need to do is ask, "Sir/Maam, would you mind turning over the other card so you can win the pot?" I'd be willing to bet that, in most cases, they'll be happy to turn it over.

I've seen this happen in every room I've ever worked in, it's going to happen...but to have it happen twice in one game, makes me cringe. I am sorry you had to witness this and I can assure you that it is not procedure.

dcarp

And you've never seen controversy where a dealer didn't mucjk the hand, told the player to turn over his cards and then some other player is upset that the dealer vilated OPTAH? Dealers really end up no win here.

No, I've never seen that.

A) I've never seen it either

B) If the dealers can't win then that's too bad, but then they should make sure that the douchebag doesn't win either. Let the newbie win.

Dynasty,

The situation you are describing sounds like outright theft by the dealer.

From my understanding of the situation: The victim had not voluntarily mucked his hand. It was clear from the exposed cards that if he showed his entire hand he would be would be entitled to the pot.

The dealer reaching across the table, mucking victims cards, and pushing the pot to another player is outrageous. A simple, "sir you must show both cards to claim the pot" is all that is necessary and I see this happen almost every time I play. The game is not slowed down and the player now understands the rule.

A am sitting here actually appalled by what actually happened. The fact that two different dealers did this and in both cases the floor defended the dealer's actions makes me never want to give the Venetian my poker business again.

I hate playing in that place.

I decided to give it another try last night, and I couldn't even sit there for 45 minutes. I can never seem to find a good game there that lasts for more than half an hour, even though they have a lot of them, but I can live with that. What makes it really irritating is the incessant, extremely loud, obnoxious humping of satellites and tournaments.

They must have announced that $500 satellite 50 times. I understand they're getting $200 rake per satellite, but do you really have to crank up the volume to three times normal and then go on, and on and on and on and on till you fill the damn thing.

God Almighty, I just don't want to hear it--and I especially don't want to hear it at full volume.

I couldn't take it anymore and went to the Wynn.

What a difference.

hi wynn poker room director!

One of the good things about having different venues available is that each person gets to choose what they like. I am not sure everyone would agree with your description of the Venetian. There must be some reason(s) the Venetian has at 500+ persons playing while the Wynn has maybe 40. I don't think it is because most players like an inferior setting. Over the past several years the number of players at the Wynn has steadily decreased while the opposite is true at the Venetian. If the Venetian loses its edge or some place better opens you will see players change where they are playing but for now the players have voted with their feet.

Are there daily 8/16, 10/20, 15/30 Hold em games? Mixed games?