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09-08-2009 , 10:26 AM
I went to the Taj and played 1/2 the other day. I sat down at the 2/4 for a little while until I found a table that I liked. I played with a couple of people one lady who was god awful. She kept on loosing and loosing and was an absolutely horrible player. Later on that night I saw both of these people at 10/20. So go figure. The 10/20 game can't be that great (in terms of skill level) at the Taj. At least based on what I have seen in the past.
09-08-2009 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave D
I guess I'm trying to compare the Taj's 10/20 to the Borgata's. In december it was fine at the Borgata imo, but I went a couple weekends in August and found the 10/20 at the Borgata to be almost totally filled with annoying regs who knew each other and generally, although bad at poker weren't that aggressive/spewy. Just trying to figure out if the Taj game is any different.

I've never played at the Taj, as everyone on here always talks about it being so gross in there, and the one time I checked out the poker room I got confused/disgusted and left.


I'm a returning regular to the $10/20 at Taj. I've never had a dangerous encounter at Taj (which isn't to say it can't happen) in the 5 or so years that I've been going there. But I'm sure the Taj is way safer than a NYC poker club. Sure there are shadier characters at Taj, but I kind of like that aspect. To me personally, it adds to its charm. Taj and Borgata seem to take to different clientele. From a poker standpoint, both games are +EV, otherwise I think it's just a matter of preference.
09-08-2009 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JackM
lol you deserve what you got. Nice try at an angle-shot to possibly save 45 dollars in like a 200 dollar pot looooooooool

Im sure they will be glad to never see you again.
Angle shooting with the best hand ? and I guess we dont need to have a show down just declare you have the best hand and the pot gets shipped to you !!
09-09-2009 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rush17
nineinchal: Was that you Friday night in the bright colored shirt, bandana around your head? there was a guy that looked like your avatar, I was at the table beside the one where the argument occured (no, it wasn't carlo russo, I know who he is) who was pretty irate over some crap that went down in his game, security came, it was pretty nasty, but then an hour later I see him walking back in the room.
I played with a guy matching this description Friday overnight at Showboat. He came to the table, saying he was just banned from Taj. Apparently, someone called him the N-word, and he bi+ch-slapped the guy. He also bragged, "I didn't even bother to close my fist. I slapped him like the bi+ch he was!" He did give his name, but went mostly by his first initial, which was D. He also had a friend hovering around him about half the time.
09-09-2009 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by WoodenKing
I played with a guy matching this description Friday overnight at Showboat. He came to the table, saying he was just banned from Taj. Apparently, someone called him the N-word, and he bi+ch-slapped the guy. He also bragged, "I didn't even bother to close my fist. I slapped him like the bi+ch he was!" He did give his name, but went mostly by his first initial, which was D. He also had a friend hovering around him about half the time.
Probably the same guy. I heard him call the guy a 'meow' before he was escorted out the door.
09-10-2009 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
Aside from the particular rules of gameplay, some common rules in U.S. public cardrooms Robert's Rules of Poker[1] by Bob Ciaffone is a widely referenced set of poker rules.[2] include:

Verbal declarations are binding and take precedence over non-verbal actions.

Cards speak for themselves and prevail if a player misstates the value of his hand at the showdown.

My OK is a call .... and my cards speak for themselves even if I didnt know I had a fullhouse which certainly wasnt the case . Board is out . Next time I wont show my cards . I will just say I have the best hand , ship it this way please !

Last edited by Great Kills; 09-10-2009 at 02:03 PM.
09-10-2009 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Great Kills
My OK is a call .... and my cards speak for themselves
Sorry, but "OK" is not a call. By the rules of the game you never called the raise.

Since BBJs have come to AC turning your cards faceup before you've completed your action will get your hand declared dead in some rooms. As happened to you.
09-10-2009 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Great Kills
Aside from the particular rules of gameplay, some common rules in U.S. public cardrooms Robert's Rules of Poker[1] by Bob Ciaffone is a widely referenced set of poker rules.[2] include:

Verbal declarations are binding and take precedence over non-verbal actions.

Cards speak for themselves and prevail if a player misstates the value of his hand at the showdown.

My OK is a call .... and my cards speak for themselves even if I didnt know I had a fullhouse which certainly wasnt the case . Board is out . Next time I wont show my cards . I will just say I have the best hand , ship it this way please !
Apparently, you misunderstood what I was saying.

When you said, "checked to me, i raise 70," the YouTube video was given to teach you that, after the flop, if a player checks, you cannot raise; but you can bet. Similarly, if, after the flop, a player bets, the next player cannot reraise.

After the flop, a raise cannot happen unless a bet happens first. After the flop, a reraise cannot happen unless someone has bet, and someone has raised first.
09-11-2009 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cockpit
Sorry, but "OK" is not a call. By the rules of the game you never called the raise.

Since BBJs have come to AC turning your cards faceup before you've completed your action will get your hand declared dead in some rooms. As happened to you.
Cards speak ..... this ive seen , player A bets player B calls . Player A shows down second best hand thinking its the winner . Player B mucks his cards but flips a card in the process , dealer turns over both cards and reveals player B has the winning hand . Dealer ships pot to player B ...... after he attempted to much his hand . So if I didnt call my opponent should have kept his river bet because I didnt call and pot should have been shipped to me .........table wasnt eligible for BBJ so wasnt a issue ...
09-11-2009 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Great Kills
Cards speak ..... this ive seen , player A bets player B calls . Player A shows down second best hand thinking its the winner . Player B mucks his cards but flips a card in the process , dealer turns over both cards and reveals player B has the winning hand . Dealer ships pot to player B ...... after he attempted to much his hand . So if I didnt call my opponent should have kept his river bet because I didnt call and pot should have been shipped to me .........table wasnt eligible for BBJ so wasnt a issue ...
It is true that cards speak. But you are not accepting that you did not clearly call. You were facing a raise, said "OK" and tabled your hand. "OK" is ambiguous. The dealer and floor interpreted it to mean you were conceding the pot. Protect yourself and don't leave your actions open to interpretation. Either put your chips in or say "call" or both.
09-13-2009 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cockpit
It is true that cards speak. But you are not accepting that you did not clearly call. You were facing a raise, said "OK" and tabled your hand. "OK" is ambiguous. The dealer and floor interpreted it to mean you were conceding the pot. Protect yourself and don't leave your actions open to interpretation. Either put your chips in or say "call" or both.
I concede I didnt say call ,, but obvious is obvious ......wheres my angle shoot ,, and i had been doing this all nite ..so now it turns into a problem ,, dealer yelled when i tabled my hand " youuuuuu mucckkkkkk " dealer is supposed to keep his/ her mouth shut ........... bad ruling or not ,, im not here to argue the points ,, just telling my story and i think its a bad move by the floor when they rule other situations differently .... you either agree or dont ,,, this isnt about poker rules its about the floors way of solving it ..... and i say BAD SOLVE
09-14-2009 , 12:34 AM
The juice is too high on the daily tournaments.
$48 + $12 ,
$50 + $15
How many runners in these?
09-14-2009 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ReyzorXxX
The juice is too high on the daily tournaments.
$48 + $12 ,
$50 + $15
How many runners in these?
I've never seen the midnight tournament have any less than 83 players. And that was on a Tuesday night in the middle of January. I've seen it with as many as 170 players during some pub poker tournament national championship gathering. I think that was earlier this summer, but not 100% sure.

I assure you that the entertainment value of the midnight tournament is well worth the $15 juice.
09-14-2009 , 11:01 AM
Am I correct in assuming that there will be some live action of 1-2 PLO during wed-fri this week?? Does this usually run during the weekday here?

Thanks
-Scott
09-14-2009 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Great Kills
I concede I didnt say call ,, but obvious is obvious ......wheres my angle shoot ,, and i had been doing this all nite ..so now it turns into a problem ,, dealer yelled when i tabled my hand " youuuuuu mucckkkkkk " dealer is supposed to keep his/ her mouth shut ........... bad ruling or not ,, im not here to argue the points ,, just telling my story and i think its a bad move by the floor when they rule other situations differently .... you either agree or dont ,,, this isnt about poker rules its about the floors way of solving it ..... and i say BAD SOLVE
Just to be clear - it wasn't me who suggested you were trying an angle nor was I joining that part of the discussion.

I'm not really defending the floor's decision, just asking you to see things from his/her point of view. I think most times the ruling goes in your favor but not always. I can see how this was frustrating for you but I also think this could have happened at just about any room and any time. It was a judgement call that could have gone either way. It was your bad luck that it happened to you.

Where you get my complete sympathy and agreement is with your comment on the dealer. A competent dealer would have clarified your action with you. Based on the quote you attribute to the dealer I infer that he/she was born outside the US. Nothing against that. But the Taj has too many dealers who have a poor understanding of english and/or don't understand how to play poker. Because of that they make waaaaayyyy too many mistakes in NLHE because they don't understand what the the players are saying or doing. I've learned to take breaks when these types come in to deal.
09-14-2009 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by schnitzel4
Am I correct in assuming that there will be some live action of 1-2 PLO during wed-fri this week?? Does this usually run during the weekday here?

Thanks
-Scott
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No, it doesn't run often at Taj. Especially so now that summer is over.
09-30-2009 , 07:38 AM
Any notice that Taj put the 3/6 OE game back on the interest list ?

I haven't seen that game go in months, kinda like 5/10 HE.
09-30-2009 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cmurl904
Any notice that Taj put the 3/6 OE game back on the interest list ?
No I haven't, but a few players from the Borg's 10-20 two way game (formally known as the Taj's 10-20 two-way game) were talking about permanently moving the game back to the Taj again.) So far, from what I was able to see from across the room, the game got off a few times already this week and seemed to have a full table.

Last edited by Rush17; 09-30-2009 at 10:12 AM.
09-30-2009 , 10:11 AM
For all you die hard high/low mixed game players out there....the Taj has consistently been getting a $30-60 mixed game off for the past two months or so. Goes around the clock on the weekends! (first drink is on me).
10-01-2009 , 02:26 AM
I played at Taj many times but it was 1/2NL or 2/4 or 3/6 limit ha. Last time i recall i saw a 40/80 stud game going on. Anyone know what is the highest limit game being spread at Taj in limit and no limit? I recall last time i was checking out the games at the computer and some guy asked for 40/80 stud and the person who was at the podium said we don't have it but we do have 1/5 stud LOL. Needless to say that guy said no thanks.
10-01-2009 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rush17
No I haven't, but a few players from the Borg's 10-20 two way game (formally known as the Taj's 10-20 two-way game) were talking about permanently moving the game back to the Taj again.) So far, from what I was able to see from across the room, the game got off a few times already this week and seemed to have a full table.
Wow, so the 2-way game might be moving ? Interesting considering that Stan has tried to keep that game going despite it's shortcomings (nitty regulars, arguments, walking during stud 8 round, etc.).
I figured that he'd kill it off and spread 10/20 half-kill & pink chip O8.

Was it 3/6 or 10/20 2-way going at Taj this week ?
I'm surprised that Taj would want a 10/20 & 15/30/45 2-way.
10-01-2009 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cmurl904
I'm surprised that Taj would want a 10/20 & 15/30/45 2-way.
I'm kind of surprised by this as well. I've heard some grumblings from a few about moving the game elsewhere but back to the Taj where they already have the 15/30/45??
10-01-2009 , 09:42 AM
From what I've seen, the 15/30/45 has had trouble consistently getting started and staying up-and-running. It makes sense that the two core groups of 2-way players would pool together to make a regular game at one place. It's a little surprising that Taj would be chosen over Borgata though. It can't be because of the food or security.
10-01-2009 , 09:42 AM
They can take that 2 way game back to the Taj, along with the nits. That will certainly help the PCG's (and also help de-nit the Borg). Good Riddance!
10-01-2009 , 10:36 AM
The 10/20 two way game will not hurt the 15/30/45 because if you've played in both games, then you're aware that the 15 game plays a lot bigger (esp. w/the two $45 bets in the stud8 round) and is an extremely aggressive game overall. Not to mention that the 10/20 game used to be played at the Taj anyway and has never interfered w/the $15/30/45. Two different beasts. But, when the 10/20 game was at the Taj, the Stud8 round was played w/a kill and made for a MUCH bigger game and forced players to gamble. I'd be curious to see which route those players take if/when they move back to the Taj.

Also, even though the $15/30/45 game has not been going as strong as it once did, it still goes strong and w/regularity from Fri-Sun and is still treated as one of the staple games of the House.

      
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