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Hate to break it to you but if you heard lots of chatter once upon a time and nothing since it's very likely nothing is happening.
Otherwise you would have heard updates from those same sources.
Probably someone started a false rumour 6 months ago perhaps on hope and it just ran before it fizzled because there was no substance to it.

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12-13-2022 , 08:22 PM

#1527

Buggle

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 257

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Originally Posted by berry_

Any update on if Woodbine will actually be getting live tables? I remember hearing months ago that they planned to have 25+ live tables for Q4 2022 or the start of 2023 and haven't heard a peep since. We're closing in on that time.....

The room is ready but they're having issues hiring enough dealers. Opening looks to be more Q3 at this point.

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01-04-2023 , 01:45 PM

#1528

Buggle

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 257

Woodbine manager gave an update, he's now saying late summer, after the new casino area opens.

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01-06-2023 , 12:09 AM

#1529

Damhouse

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Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 35

Late summer would be September so after the CNE.
Wonder what will happen to the CNE poker room once Woodbine opens their poker room.

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01-06-2023 , 03:08 AM

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thenewoldpro

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Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 555

I heard from a pro dealer that Woodbine decided to cancel poker. I'd be willing to gamble we don't see poker in Woodbine this year.

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01-06-2023 , 03:09 AM

#1531

thenewoldpro

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Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 555

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Originally Posted by Damhouse

Late summer would be September so after the CNE.
Wonder what will happen to the CNE poker room once Woodbine opens their poker room.

Probably nothing, since the CNE has Blackjack though Woodbine has Blackjack.

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01-07-2023 , 10:03 PM

#1532

golferpatrick

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Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 48

Anyone here play a fair amount of online cash or study it? Looking to do some study work and hand review (any stakes)
Dm

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01-09-2023 , 02:12 AM

#1533

Buggle

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 257

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Originally Posted by thenewoldpro

I heard from a pro dealer that Woodbine decided to cancel poker. I'd be willing to gamble we don't see poker in Woodbine this year.

Two Options:

1/ Woodbine GM is lying to the public.
2/ Your dealer doesn't know what he's talking about.

I suppose either of these could be correct.

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01-11-2023 , 09:05 PM

#1534

golferpatrick

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Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 48

Why is there such a mass hype over woodbine poker? is this going to be the next Bellagio?

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01-11-2023 , 10:04 PM

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lefty rosen

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Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,863

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Originally Posted by golferpatrick

Why is there such a mass hype over woodbine poker? is this going to be the next Bellagio?

It will be the only legal full time room in the city, end of story full stop. That said don't expect much from this as the game will be raked to death and in theory could kill off good games in Niagara Falls.

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01-13-2023 , 04:04 AM

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LordRiverRat

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,696

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Originally Posted by lefty rosen

When you put it that way, it could also be bad for online poker. I feel like recs prefer live way more than regs.

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01-13-2023 , 04:41 PM

#1537

golferpatrick

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Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 48

Every time I’m on stars there’s usually around 15k people online, so I don’t think online will be dead, and who even knows what stake and structure they will offer, if it’s like the cne with 10 handed games good luck

Last edited by golferpatrick; 01-13-2023 at 04:53 PM.

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01-14-2023 , 04:27 AM

#1538

Buggle

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 257

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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat

When you put it that way, it could also be bad for online poker. I feel like recs prefer live way more than regs.

Live & online poker don't cross over much imo. I'd wager 85% of live players are not regular online players. Maybe even as high as 95%. The only thing that'll cannibalize live games are too many smallish casinos everywhere, like they have in Calgary & Vancouver. For live poker, one or two big casinos is best. If they put it in Pickering and Woodbine that'd be perfect.

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03-08-2023 , 02:39 PM

#1539

tercet

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,001

Maybe opening in a few months with poker?

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03-08-2023 , 02:44 PM

#1540

Bumbaclat

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Originally Posted by lefty rosen

Why would the games in Niagara be so good, but Toronto won’t? Do you think the Niagara rake structure is gentle?

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03-08-2023 , 05:47 PM

#1541

AAJTo

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Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 1,096

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Originally Posted by Bumbaclat

Why would the games in Niagara be so good, but Toronto won’t? Do you think the Niagara rake structure is gentle?

Brantford is $15 rake at 10% which is the same casino owners as woodbine. Casino Niagra is lower overall and induces action instead of forcing nittyness.

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03-09-2023 , 06:18 AM

#1542

Buggle

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 257

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Originally Posted by Bumbaclat

Why would the games in Niagara be so good, but Toronto won’t? Do you think the Niagara rake structure is gentle?

Niagara rake structure is insanely gentle. best in Canada

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03-09-2023 , 12:47 PM

#1543

golferpatrick

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Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 48

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Originally Posted by tercet

Maybe opening in a few months with poker?

unpopular opinion, this is not "in the city" something more downtown, waterfront ect would be better, but if the rake and games are just like the cne, it could be over hyped, that said they could surprise everyone

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03-12-2023 , 11:01 PM

#1544

RussellinToronto

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I see no indication of poker are their website. But vague rumours of this were probably what spurred the chatter about poker returning to Woodbine.

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03-13-2023 , 06:40 AM

#1545

Buggle

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 257

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Originally Posted by RussellinToronto

I see no indication of poker are their website. But vague rumours of this were probably what spurred the chatter about poker returning to Woodbine.

No, direct and numerous conversations in writing with the manager of the casino are what spurred the chatter. You can deny that all you want, doesn't change the fact tho.

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03-13-2023 , 06:22 PM

#1546

lefty rosen

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Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,863

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Originally Posted by golferpatrick

Yes tourist type fish won't be in abundance as the casino is in the northwest corner of the city that has NO other tourist type options around less some strip clubs just a few miles west of it in Mississauga which is a bedroom sister city.

The government has expanded public transportation options as a GO station will open up on the property at some point in the near future and the UP express option from downtown isn't too far as the airport is within a few miles of the casino as landing planes fly over the race track grounds all day.

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03-18-2023 , 04:32 PM

#1547

thenewoldpro

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Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 555

Anyone see GBH recently? Apparently it’s now 1-3 NL instead of 1-2 and bad best is up to 365,000

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03-31-2023 , 03:25 PM

#1548

Guito

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 785

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Originally Posted by thenewoldpro

Anyone see GBH recently? Apparently it’s now 1-3 NL instead of 1-2 and bad best is up to 365,000

On busy days it gets up to 7 tables (they could open more if there was demand). Generally 1-2, 2-5, and 20/40 Omaha hi only.

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03-31-2023 , 11:02 PM

#1549

Damhouse

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Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 35

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Originally Posted by Guito

On busy days it gets up to 7 tables (they could open more if there was demand). Generally 1-2, 2-5, and 20/40 Omaha hi only.

You mean there are no 5/10 or 10/20 limit? What's the rake in the 1-2 and 2-5 games?

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04-02-2023 , 02:23 AM

#1550

Guito

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 785

Limit games have basically died off. (Who called it? This guy almost 20 years ago. Who's sad about it? Also this guy). They'll spread it if they have a long enough list and staff. I think the rake is 10% to $15 and bad beat. The list is never long enough and there's never enough staff.

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