No but im a live fish, lol'ing at how bad live "pros" are.

I stacked the fishes on saturday for 4600 $ at 2-5 and i was there for only 7 hours

anyone else seeing lots of big hands???

last 10 hours played there(say about 500 hands in total)

7 quads
flopped straight flush

and seem to be getting action

AK vs 77 board 77A K A
99 vs QQ board 9Qx 9 x

does anyone know if they have to send out all the hands played 2 a third party to make sure everything is running right? I think all major online sites send 2 2 or 3 different company's 4 revue. next time i go i will ask them.

To be honest i have played about 20 hours there so far and have not seen anything like this. Haven't seen quads, haven't seen straight flush , nothing out of the ordinary. The worst I have seen is aces or kings cracked a couple times but that is nothing new. I was discussing with a regular how he believes the random card generators are actually better then he expected as he has not seen anything crazy yet either and he is there 5 days a week. Note that this guy was in his late 50s, which is usually the ones who are most skeptical of the whole "its rigged" theory. He also mentioned that he is noticing as am I, that people are calling ALOT more then they would if they had chips in front of them. Having chips in front of people and seeing them dwindle away makes people play more tight, now with out these chips people seem to more passive and calling stations as they do not have that visual and feeling out the chips. I have definitely noticed this as well. the game is playing more like a internet game imo. Which i like better. Definitely more profitable.

I have played 2 sessions of about 10 hours each. I left my first session of 2/5 with 4600 bucks and my second with just under 4k. Not to bad for 2/5. You never see these types of sessions in a game at fallsview.

It is also important to note that the average pot sizes in my two sessions were anywhere between 200- 270 $ with avg of 48 hands a hour. You can not beat that !!!

Is 48/hr at 1/2 over 25 hours sustainable long-term?

I honestly think I can do better, I haven't noticed one player I would consider good so-far yet, the money going around at these table is nutzzzzzz

You should play 2/5 ... 1/2 is brutal. I find these games play a lot like online.

Why is 1/2 brutal? In my only outing there I found it a pretty easy game. (Small sample admittedly, but I'm pretty much a novice at NL. So would it really be better for me to play in a game that's "a lot like online"?)

I'm planning on a venture there this Sat. night.

Does the PLO ever go?

The limit game??

PLO has gone a few times yes. It has only been 1/2 with 400 max which is nice. Action was good. I think that game will run quite a bit once people know. The nice thing is if they got the players they will spread it. Usually always a table open. Just a matter of ppl sitting. Never seen the limit going.

I think i might head over tonight

When I was their on Sunday their was some redneck who complained to the floor maybe 20 times for 2 hours that the machine stole 20$ from his stack. Half of the table tried not to laugh to death, as he was ****in terrible playing maybe 60% of hands but somehow managed to build a stack up to 800$, lolol

The 1/2 is easier then 1/2c online imo, maybe the 2/5 will play like 2/5c =p, but I need to build up BR and hopefully Ill try it in January or so.

Someone else complained to the floor that he was missing $30 though he was calm when speaking to the floor. Floor made a joke "so you owe us $30" and I couldn't stop from laughing. Probably not the same guy cause he only had $60.

I'm playing $1/2 trying to learn how "bad" poker players play as I build my initial $400 deposit into $5K before I try $2/5. I currently have $2600 in my card.

Seems like a learning curve for me as I've been playing 6 seated $.50/1 and $1/2 online for 6 years with standard 6 Max TAG stats. I'm not using the same TAG stats (style) of play for live though, trying different things right now to see what style I should use. Reads are pretty easy on most of the players though.

Till I reach $5K, I'm buying in for 50BB in the $1/2 games. Been shoving alot preflop when I feel weakness with initial raiser.

Does $2/5 plays like $.25/$.50 online? Have no idea what $1/2 plays like online, LOL, just bad poker.

The only time I played (1/2) the game was very loose passive, with a lot of limping in and then folding on the occasions that someone raised behind them. There didn't seem to be much post-flop aggression: people bet their hands (typically around .6-.8 psb) and other chased or folded or called down with mediocre crap. Has your experience been similar?

(When there was an open raise in late position, it would be followed by a CB, then √√.)

I heard that the 2-5 is much wilder.

I'm going out with a friend on Sat. and will try for PLO. If not, probably fall back on 1/2.

does woodbine allow a guest to pull up a seat and watch like in vegas, or are they anal like fallsview and forbid this?

It is very passive. I am sure I check raised the flop with TP bad kicker and got better hands to fold. There is alot of limping preflop. I haven't been able to figure out the amount to raise preflop in order to get 1-2 callers, it's either none or 4-5 callers lol.

I have seen real bad players on 1/2 moving to play 2/5.

For 1/2, Open raise in LP followed by a call in EP and a CB on the flop by LP and call by EP usually means EP puts u on AK on a non-AK flop and EP has a poket pair when calling. I was CBing the flop with overcards but have resorted to just checking the flop then fireing if I hit or have a draw on the turn.

Some of the bad players bet pot size to double pot size to protect their TPTK on a flop that has a flush draw.

Not allowed, floor asks people watching play at a table to leave.

Sunday morning I did this to watch nfl previews and they didnt care, but only 3 tables were open.

Thanks. Has anyone had any experience in their PLO?

Sitting at an empty table is fine I think. If you stand behind someone playing at a table or sit down in an empty seat to watch the play they will ask u to leave.

If someone is standing right behind me, I usually turn around to see who it is. Sometimes it's one of the slot players looking around so I don't want to scare them off lol.

I was on the waitlist sunday for maybe 7 hrs it never started. Considering how terrible the nl regs are , I couldnt imagine anyone being good at plo.

I went to ask what my comp total was when I was there last night. They said $50 so I have played 100 hrs so far. So I'm making $26/hr buying in for 50BB and adjusting my style to the type of players I'm seeing at live 1/2 (playing live regularily is new to me). I have $3K on my card now and will be buying in for 100BB going forward.

I meet russell tonight, we both want to play some plo, but no one ever wants to play it.

Oh yea my hourly at 1/2 nl went up lolll

Actually, a 1/2 Omaha game did open up after Tercet posted that (around 11.30) and we both joined it. I hadn't been intending to stay late, but couldn't resist.

Despite the speculation of a poster above that Omaha at Woodbine would get clueless players, we wound up with a full table of (mostly) pretty PLO-aware players (a couple of whom I've played 20-40 limit Omaha with at GBH). The two or three who were not at least somewhat familiar with PLO didn't last long and were replaced by better.

The hand of the evening for me came around 90 minutes into the game. I had about $600 in front of me. (By then I was down about $400, having lost most of that when I went all in heads up on the flop with a nut straight on a rainbow board -- to lose to a wrap that only had, as it turned out, 4 outs.)

With the board showing 9c7c4x, I was under-the-gun with AcKc6x3x, I bet 20 into a $40 pot, a middle player raised the pot and the player on the puck shoved all in for $450. I deliberated for a while, then reluctantly called. The middle player folded.

The puck showed top two with no redraws except to the full house (and I later learned the middle player folded the same top two). My club came on the turn.

When I got home, the online Omaha odds calculator I consulted showed me a marginal underdog. But, since the pot was giving me an overlay, it was a clear call, if still a close one. (Mind you, I didn't make those calculations in game conditions.)

Hey guys,

I have been playing at mohawk multiple times since it has opened. I am a regular omaha player online and mostly go to try to get plo game going. I wouldn't mind knowing when you guys plan on going and we can all start up a game.

I am noticing that player play if there is a game going. It is just a matter of having 3 or 4 guys to get the games going. It is not like a regular dealer so they just don't start calling players when theres a full list. It is up to the players to sit and get the game going. Which kinda sucks because no one wants to take the initiative.

I think if we get a few key players getting the game going on a regular basis more will become aware and the game will become a regular thing.

let me know if you guys are willing to try to start to set this up