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Originally Posted by yankee grinder
Hey Rob,
I think this assessment is a little unfair to be honest.
They would not open the table short handed bc we had a lot of people (besides the core that included you) that would short buy and once they lost one bullet would dip. Not to mention it is not like it generated a lot of people on the interest list to keep the game going.
Also, we were doing it on a night where all dealers and all tables were needed. If there is 20 people on a 1/1 list and 5 for the HORSE, their business model is that it is most fair to open another 1/1 game with that table so less people would be sitting around waiting.
If we were going to continue to run a game where only the same 5 faces showed up every week and a couple of more signed up to play randomly we needed to do it on a weekday. On a Tuesday they would open a game HU for you guys and not care, bc we have open tables an dealers sitting around with nothing to do.
I loved dealing that game and I loved that you guys came to our room. I hope you guys come back and I hope that we one day generate more interest to get it going steadily again.
YG
I know what your saying, trust me THR is even worse when it comes to opening a 1/3 game. 25 people on the list 2 tables open, but with 15 on the 1/2 game and 25 tables open, they open another 1/2 game. No lie, that happened 3 Saturday's ago. We waited almost an hour to get on a table.
I think if a room wants to expand it's selection they need the full buy-in from the room, dealers, players, management to make it happen. You do a great job, but other than on 2p2 there is no movement to make it happen.
For example, I know about 2-3 months ago you all tried running mix game tournaments, but each week, if I'm not mistaken was a different game leafing up to a final tournament. There were three problems I saw with this...
A) the tournaments were posted, but no marketing really done ( flyers posters etc...) I could post that I'm having a 550 satellite to the ME but if I don't promote it I'm relying on word of mouth. That satellite would generate interest because of it's clear message, but I would still want more details, like how many advance? Is it transferable? Are expenses included? But for unique tournaments, like HOSE I think people need education.
B) for something you are just starting, why are you making things so complex? Have a HOSE or HORSE tourney be just that a one day mix tourney. Want to do a TOC? That's cool, but confine it to a single structure. When you start in with wk 1... Holdem wk 2.... Omaha. Wk 3... Etc... You lose people. You all are doing it again with Sunday SNGs. What does it mean? Only Sunday's can you play SnGs? Are there any incentives to play on Sundays? Ante up just did a whole segment on their podcast about the lack of SnGs and goos structures and payouts. This is a great opportunity to get with a big name voice in the poker community, especially after black Friday.
C) no one talks things up at your room. THR doesn't care and they still have 4-5 dealers that talk promos and tournaments up. Derby even more. Your room has some very personable dealers that only focus on 1-2 people at the table. If I were running a room, I would tell my dealers to end the first five minutes blending with the table. ALWAYS acknowlegde your regulars of course, but the best games are when the dealers try to deal fast, bit be personable to the whole table getting people to relax. And pop in with a, "anyone hit the high hand?" Or, "you hear we're starting a no rake 200 dollar tourney? You best marketers are your dealers, you don't want to burden your players", but do want to educate.
YG, I offer this because I like your room, these are the things I do, am in school for, that have consistently worked in other businesses. Do with it as you feel, disagree, which I would respect, but I think these could help generate addition business for your room, and more tips overall. I'll be out there probably all day, stop and say hey.