so all the casinos are giving slot play vouchers instead of cash if you take the bus now? heading down to showboat next week from port authority and would like to know...thanks in advance

So you'd rather go back to the poker base you had in the early 90's? I think it's pretty clear by now that bad beat jackpots draw in more people to play and since most people are bad at poker it's +EV.

Also, LOL at it costing you $25 per day. I wish I won 25 pots every time I played.

Not true that the BBJ is =EV for a good player.

First off, bad players are more likely to hit a BBJ as they play more hands and see more showdowns. Second, if you hit you pretty much have to give a tip to the dealer, and most likely you have to pay taxes on your winnings too.

The BBJs may bring more bad players to the game, but they also make the bad players go broke faster and long term take money out of the poker economy.

If you play a full day (~8 hours) and are not extremely tight, I am sure you would win on average at least 25 pots a day.

ur from kansas why exactly do u care wuts going on in atlantic city

this is so wrong

BBJs draw more players. More players =more full tables = more profit for the casino.

and they do the exact opposite of kill good games. They make them so much jucier.

Maybe it's closer to reality than I thought. I am pretty tight so maybe for myself it's on the low side.

That said, it's easy to see how much soft action the BBJ brings in. If it were possible I'd like to have no BBJ but keep all the BBJ chasers/fish but this isn't possible IMO.

I really doubt bad players are significantly more likely to hit the BBJ. It's not like hands like suited three gappers are hitting the BBJ most of the time. It's mostly pocket pairs and both people flop huge. You can make the argument that low limit games have a slight edge but you are also getting 95% of hands going to showdown - making the game get less hands out.

Will renew Platinum on Saturday. Goal is Diamond by October...as long as my wife doesn't go into labor 3 weeks early...

I actually don't think this math is too flawed.

Assuming 25 hands/hour:

$1 taken per hand = $25 taken per hour
If you play 10 hours per day at a 10 handed table, this means on average each player is paying $25 per day into the BBJ.

This of course assumes an average player; super tight players will pay less into the BBJ and super loose players will pay more.

I'm reliable? Wow. Thought I was just a degenerate.

Reliable and degenerate are not mutually exclusive.

IDK why you guys are complaining about the BBJ when it brings bad players to your games. All these weak players come to the room that the BBJ is the highest. The games are always sick good when the BBJ is over 200k at any casino. So ur EV in the actual game goes up if you are a good player imo.

They are here they aren't going anywhere because they bring players to the rooms. The glass is half full guys.

Degen fo sho...

lol, cya sat. You too reecelights?

It was just hit at the Taj last week because _two_ players checked mediocre flushes on the flop, allowing another player to get runner runner quads from an underpair. Even then, the third guy called a substantial bet on the turn with bottom set on a 3 flush board.

Even the floor manager said "you would have never hit the jackpot if you guys didn't play so bad".

This is another +EV element of the BBJ - players will chase 1 and 2 outers trying to get there. If you are in the hand against them, you literally cannot lose!

I'll take 1000 playing 1/2NL while everyone else drools and stares @ that 6 digit dreamworld on the screens, lol.... I Play where the jackpot is highest to play the WORST players, not to chase the BBJ... and speaking of that BBJ, Mike and mike, Can you hold off on dealing it 4 one week to keep the fishies there for me next wknd?? I promise I'll hit it w/one of you in the box next weekend, My "run goot" is SKY HI lately... and M-rod, I know you "Don't wanna deal it "( lolz) but, we'll make it a positive problem for you...

Checking a flush doesn't automatically mean you are a bad player. Trying to fill up a set is done by the vast majority of players playing these games IMO.

I'll do my best to hold off on dealing it.. I'm with Rod on the don't wanna deal it bandwagon. The shift we both work is good, but when the BBJ is high, it is much better which is definitely great for all the dealers in the long run. I have definitely heard a LOT more people saying "The only reason I called ($15-$25 preflop) was because it's a bad beat hand.." as they announce they just called your raise with 3-2 suited.. lol

As the bad beat keeps going up, the players in general become significantly worse which allows you guys to come in and clean up!

I will say that if I end up dealing the BBJ, I am hoping that it will go to one of you guys on here (and not because I would be expecting a large tip, but because I would rather see it go to our loyal regulars versus traveling BBJ donks.)

wuts wrong wit 2-3 suited, especially if its spades??

idk if I cant hold off i am the only one that doesn't wanna deal it so I think ima get unlucky cause thats how I roll.

LDO.

I'm looking forward to dinner with MG at the Irish Pub - my first time ever to eat there, despite having been going to AC for 2+ years now

What's the BBJ qualification? Any quads? The room all wins if it hits, right?

Not necessarily true. I took a poll of dealers this Tuesday while you were Foxwooding it up, and a large percentage said they hope it doesn't hit because the room stays busier.

Except for Jing. (j/k)