Could consider using the 90% of your comps that are going to waste on drinks?

Apparently I have to use my "Comps" to pay for parking now... lol But can you actually use your comp points for drinks at the table? Had no idea that you could... Although I honestly don't drink that much at the table anyways, but would honestly buy it for others at the table if they were going to waste anyways....

You can use them at the table.

Is drinkin at the table that bad? I mean obviously going on monkey tilt and having 7 drinks like me is awful, but I can't imagine a beer or two being so bad.

As money hungry as this place is I've got to give credit where it is due. Came to degen on a date with my significant other tonight and we placed a $51 voucher and $10
Bill in to the roulette table. While trying to explain to her how roulette works she accidentally selected some sort of button that placed a bunch of bets on various black numbers. Next thing I know the screen says "last bet $61 dollars".

Said something to the employees about it and next thing I know they're handing me $61 cash. Good on them.

Nothing wrong with it... Just not my cup of tea. I'm not the social "have 1 or 2" kinda guy, I either want to get drunk, or just stay sober.... and if I'm getting drunk, I'd much rather it be in a place where the girl to guy ratio isn't 100 to 1 and I'm not sitting with $1,000 in front of me... lol

I'm amazed by how much worse I play after just two beers.. But I still do it

Can you name a poker-room that fits this criteria that Tampa Hard Rock isn't meeting for you?

$5-6 and sometimes $8 beers are pretty standard, $1/comps is standard if not above average outside of Las Vegas, and I think you'll have to show your work to convince anyone that this room is taking 80% of BBJ money for profit.

How can you even try to define it as either good or bad? Its just something that people do with varying motivations. Having 7 drinks and going on monkey tilt can hardly be defined as "bad". Maybe "fun" or "irresponsible" are better words.

We get $2/hr comps for $2/5 + NLHE and PLO. Only downside is we have to use them w/in 60 days and we can't use them to buy into donkaments (we used to be able to).

dude just wants to complain because the THR ain't Bellagio in Vegas.

First off, to the guys point about the jackpot drop.... Right now their promo is giving away $200.00 every half hour to a high hand between 12pm to 9pm I believe... lol I'm legit guessing that's less than 10% of the drop they take per day that they are giving away.. They capped the BBJ at 50k, and it pretty much never gets hit since it needs quad 10's or better to qualify... I don't even think anyone with a straight face can argue they actually use more than 20% of the jackpot money towards the promos. For comparison sake Derby Lanes has WAYYYY better promo's and is giving away much more money this month and get about 1/6th the players and drop....

About the expecting the Bellagio comps remark, not at all. I know there is no competition and they are free to do what they want and can get away with doing whatever they want, that being said, the things like paying $5.00 to park at a casino is just asinine to me. The place already makes BILLIONS each year, now they are just nickel and diming us even more... That's what I'm annoyed about...

Sounds like the wrong forum to complain about capitalism

With the AC being very spotty lately and the absolute convenience and comfort they have discovered AC provides, the THR executives have come up with a new plan.....

Air Conditioning Convenience Fee.

Has it still been bad since last weekend?

was there on tuesday and it was pretty disgusting

That is because legally Derby Lane and all other parimutuel facilities are required to return 100% of the jackpot money to players, Seminoles are not.

I personally have a problem with pari's not abiding to that legal requirement when they give away seats to tournaments that are heavily raked, thus increasing profits, but that is nothing compared to the absolute lack of accountability written into the Seminole's monopoly contract with the state.

That was my point I was trying to make, is they could at least pretend to giving away a decent percentage of it. With the money they rake in, they easily could do $1,000 high hands every 30 min from 12pm to 12am 7 days a week, and still have plenty of money left over.... Instead, we get $200.00 from 12 to 9pm, and they just pocket I'm guessing 80-90% of it, and no one can do anything about it....

agree with this whole heartedly. both the tournament give-aways that include the tourney fee, and the seminoles clearly keeping their money bothers me.

i doubt they seminoles are allowed to keep their jackpot drop... are they? i assumed they just aren't as regulated in that area or have the same strict wording in their licensing agreement.

Their poker room is not regulated at all by the state. It is regulated only at the federal level, by the NIGC.

Under the NIGC regulations, a tribe can apply for a certificate of self regulation for Class II gaming (poker, bingo, et al). The Seminole Tribe has yet to meet the qualifications for self-regulation. Instead, they are regulated directly by the NIGC (although I don't know if that means there is any active inspection or oversight).

The NIGC regulations for card games (HERE and HERE) include these definitions:

These terms apply to the poker room jackpots. The term "jackpot" alone in the regulations refers only to machine (slots) jackpots. These are the actual regulations regarding poker room promotional pools:

and:

A couple years ago, I complained to the NIGC that the Seminole poker rooms were not complying with these regulations in terms of posting the promotional pool rules and amounts. Shortly thereafter, the poker rooms published all their jackpot policies and displayed their rules and amounts. Their general rule was that 40% of the drop goes to the badbeat pools (primary, secondary, tertiary) and the other 60% goes to "Poker Promotional Fund" for "future promotions" (e.g., high hands). At the time, player points rewards were also paid out from this promotional fund, but that is no longer true. Ask at the podium for the published jackpot rules - they should still have a printed brochure.

If you are seeing or suspect any violations of these regulations, you can report it to the NIGC Regional Office:

I think the apparent big discrepancy between the amounts of the jackpot giveaways and the estimated jackpot drop totals is largely attributable to their Hollywood Hard Rock tournament series Main Event seat giveaways. But you should be able to see the current promotional pools amounts posted, including both the badbeat jackpots and the Poker Promotional Fund, per the regulations.

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Thanks. I got skillz.

there's always a scrolling balance of the JP fund at the bottom on the bravo screen at THR. Yesterday is was like 306K. I thought they were stocking up on it to give away a bunch of 1100.00 seats, but this didn't happen.

I think that is just the Jackpot Fund (badbeat jackpot), which is separate from the Poker Promotions Fund. I could be wrong.

$20 + tip for regular valet parking....

I went in for the first time in months to meet a client last Friday, I wanted the Valet to leave my car up. Mostly because I was walking in for 20 minutes max, but most likely 5 minutes or less, and I was driving a car that I didn't want a Valet driving particularly far, or parking in a general valet lot.

$50 ****ing bucks for that. Plus tip of course.

Ridiculous.


And the real reason I came into the thread for my not that often appearance. How has the turnout for the $1100 been? I was thinking of playing tomorrow to waste some time and get in some table time before going out to the series.

Did you pay the $50?

I played WPT main event flight 1A yesterday, I'm tilted i didn't bag, i was a top 3 chip leader mentioned on the blog at dinner break, i fell to pieces the final 2 levels.

anyways, it's cold as **** in there now, the AC is working and felt like it was 58 degrees. i'm from MN originally but still.


there were about 160 entries so already 150k in prize pool, i suspect this will go to 500k pool. check the blog i think 33 bagged.

i would valet for $20 in that situation and let them screw around with it... or was it when you went to the window to leave they asked for $50? the hotel is $25 i think and casino $20, that's posted. if the $50 isn't posted i would tell them no thanks.