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Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino (Tampa, FL) -- FAQ in OP, updated 2019.11.24 Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino (Tampa, FL) -- FAQ in OP, updated 2019.11.24

08-31-2011 , 05:45 PM
please make it 1/2- 100-300 please hard rock
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08-31-2011 , 06:27 PM
Hard Rock expansion

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08-31-2011 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 85chickasaw
those are great spreads and buy-ins. 100 max in 1-2 sucks. offering 1-1 for the same buy-in makes room for everyone!
I agree I'd love to try 1/1 and if people don't buy deep, I can step up into 1-2! If I could find a deep 1/1 that'd be awesome. 1/2 definitely needs new limits!!
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08-31-2011 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ne14aparty?
I agree I'd love to try 1/1 and if people don't buy deep, I can step up into 1-2! If I could find a deep 1/1 that'd be awesome. 1/2 definitely needs new limits!!
meh, 1/1 isnt a great game, rake will murder any hope and dreams of building a roll @ that level
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08-31-2011 , 09:44 PM
Yea the 1/1nl would be gross to play because nobody goes by how many bb you have or how many bb's it was raised in live poker like they do online.
Online even .05/.10nl if you make it 3bb raise you get a fair amount of respect.

Live 1/1 say there was 2 limps and your standard raise was 5bb+ 1 per limp, so you make it $7 on a raise. People behind are not folding for $7 because its only $7.

And in an unraised pot pre, there will be tons of j4 type hands.
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08-31-2011 , 09:57 PM
As I sit here wearing my HR Poker Room Hoodie over my HR Poker Room T-shirt with my HR Poker Room hat on, sipping coffee from my HR Poker Room travel mug, I'm feeling like I like getting free stuff, even when I know I actually paid for it and some of it doesn't really even fit!
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09-01-2011 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Yea the 1/1nl would be gross to play because nobody goes by how many bb you have or how many bb's it was raised in live poker like they do online.
Online even .05/.10nl if you make it 3bb raise you get a fair amount of respect.

Live 1/1 say there was 2 limps and your standard raise was 5bb+ 1 per limp, so you make it $7 on a raise. People behind are not folding for $7 because its only $7.

And in an unraised pot pre, there will be tons of j4 type hands.
Do you really think that people who play 1/1 or the vast majority that play 1/2 (specifically at the rock) even have a clue when it comes to pre-flop raises, continuation bets, or any real poker strategy that makes the game worthwhile, profitable or both? Which is why I don't understand your disdain for the 1/3 or peoples unwillingness to play it.

First, its the first deepstack game you can play, so if you came to play you can buy-in for 200-300 and have some maneuvering you can do. Why after last year do you want to be stuck playing 20-50 bb when you can now play 50-100?

Second, the game itself may attract harder players, but I want to play against someone who knows how to fold a gut shot with one to come. I already hear the response, "you want people to call from behind, that's how you make money." You're right, but its also why this is gambling and sometimes winning what's in the middle without seeing all 5 cards is fine.

What id like to see is a biloxi type situation with no cap on a game and let's play a real deal NLHE game.
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09-01-2011 , 07:36 AM
Lol... 'I want people to fold gutshots with 1 card to come'
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09-01-2011 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EddieOB
Lol... 'I want people to fold gutshots with 1 card to come'
Laugh as you will but I've had enough people call down looking for that one card because they are there to gambool. That's the 1/2 game at the rock in a nutshell.
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09-01-2011 , 08:27 AM
And each time they make that call with 1 card to come against you their ev plummets as yours skyrockets... For you to be dissapointed in that situation is lol and I'm sorry if you can't see that.
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09-01-2011 , 09:23 AM
I can't disagree with you and I do you see how the situation is laughable. my only problem with the 1 / 2 game at the hardrockis that the structure really does take away a whole aspect of playing poker. if play against people who have literally 40 dollars to buy in is positive ev, then maybe I have a disconnect with regards to the 1 / 2 game. I gravitate to the 1 / 3 games because it does offer more options to play poker then I feel the 1 / 2 game has. I hope you do see where I am coming from.
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09-01-2011 , 10:26 AM
I completely understand what you're saying, but I just think you're underestimating how bad people are that play 1-2 and how much money you can make if you adjust properly. You are correct that 1/3 offers "more options to play poker" yet what you are vastly underestimating is how much more you can make by playing a more profitable - and much different strategy - at 1/2. If you truly want "more options" then go buy into 5-10 with $2500. There'll be plenty of options on every street. If you want to make easy money - they play a straight forward ABC, NO BS, No triple level strategy at 1-2. Don't get me wrong...I would love it if they changed the buyins to be like the hollywood poker room.

With that in mind - table selecting is big as well. If you find yourself at a table full of people with $40 and everyone's a nit - then leave. There are plenty of 1-2 tables to choose from.
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09-01-2011 , 11:06 AM
If you're avoiding $1/2 because they don't respect your raises, and are playing $1/3 because it's 'more real', you need to inspect your game. Both games are laughably beatable with ABC, tight-is-right play. There are good games and bad games at both levels - I've been fortunate to find good ones at $1/3. But I bounce back and forth. I agree with Eddie - table selection is crucial. Minor adjustments are needed due to stack sizes, but otherwise these are great games to build a BR.

edit: I find that a lot of $2/5 games are filled with characters who won't fold gutshots either. Lost me a $1200 (net loss $600) pot last week when I flopped bottom set and got it all in versus a gutter. So, stuff like this happens at bigger levels too. Move on.

My two cents: create the $1/1 20-100 game and a $1/2 $100-300 game a la the HHR. You'll get more players to the $1/2 game that won't currently enter a $1/3 game AND you won't alienate the $40 short-stackers.

Last edited by DeeKay; 09-01-2011 at 11:12 AM.
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09-01-2011 , 11:21 AM
I looked at a 1/3nl game the other day, there was only 1 game and no lie everyone had $100-$150 in front of them except 1 guy who had like $300. In addition in the 3 hands I watched every pot was under $25.

Every time I look at the 1/3nl games lately thats what I am seeing. As much as 50bb max buyin poker with half the table buying 20bb's sucks, it is more profitable than the situation that I just described. On weekends or late night maybe the 1/3nl game can occasionally be good but I am talking on average on a daily basis.
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09-01-2011 , 11:27 AM
I never play 1-3. I go back and forth between 1-2 and 2-5 depending on how much variance i'm up for. the play at 1-3 is actually better(better players) than at a lot of 2-5 tables in my experience, especially on the weekends.
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09-01-2011 , 12:00 PM
While the players at $1/3 are generally better than those at $1/2, there are a lot of players who play deeper who think they're better than they actually are. The key is to find those players and exploit the hell out of them. Plus, you'll get occasionally some droolers who peel off B/I after B/I. Of course, if you've got 1 spot with $100 and everybody else is competent (which happens from time to time), get a table change, or go to a $1/2 game.
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09-01-2011 , 12:53 PM
1/3 will always suck because everyone that plays in it posts on here. Some of you guys should move up if you're so good and can obviously dominate the game.
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09-01-2011 , 02:09 PM
I don't have a gambling problem - I've got a spending problem . Hence my lack of moving up to $2/5 and beyond. However, now that I've got steady employment that pays well, I won't be forced to dip into the 'roll to pay those pesky bills and grocery costs.
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09-01-2011 , 02:39 PM
What is 5/10 NL like there? How often do they spread it? At least on weekends?
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09-01-2011 , 03:40 PM
If anyone is up there for Labor Day weekend, can you tell me if the poker room is crowded? It is a holiday weekend (people going on road trips and what not). Thanks in advance.
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09-01-2011 , 03:55 PM




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09-01-2011 , 03:57 PM
I just noticed it says multi table tourney play time counts. I wonder if that is a misprint, They have never done that before.
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09-01-2011 , 04:01 PM
Interesting - definitely let us know the final verdict - its about time they reward players for their atrociously structured, high rake tourneys.
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09-01-2011 , 04:04 PM
They probably will just count tourney hours for the promo and not .60/hour or $1/hour for food comps but I am just guessing.

One of the regulars I know has played well over 1000 of those horrible multi table tourneys at HR. I am guessing he is ahead of the game to play that many but I wouldnt think by much because of the rake.
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09-01-2011 , 04:11 PM
I played one of the $120 tourneys a couple of months ago. 6 people left. top 4 pay. Button raises as chip leader. I shove 99 from the big blind for about 20bbs as 2nd in chips and he folds QQ face up saying over and over I know you have AA lol - yeah I'd say they are profitable.

Even if they only count the hours for the promotion that still huge added value.
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