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07-12-2010 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikess2001
[name removed] is an absolutly AWFUL ****ing dealer. Granted hes an old guy and I understand this but WTF? I was at the table and tipped him $1 on a $75ish pot and he said "Thats it?" I didnt hear him say it but a couple of the other people at the table heard it and they were quite offended. He was at the table for like 30ish minutes and dealt like 18 hands
dunno where u been playing before but 18 hands in 1/2 hr in a long-handed game is pretty good. but yea, the tipping comment is outta place.
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07-12-2010 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sh!p!td0nk
Sevens-Saw you playing the older guy HU in a HO game the other night, stack size's were sickk, just wondering how ya did? and how long he could stand the HU pressure and aggression from you?

I did alright i chipped away for the most part, then coolered him at the end when i raised j7ss he flatted qq in the BB and flopped j-7-3 for his last 50bb
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07-12-2010 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by $evens77
I did alright i chipped away for the most part, then coolered him at the end when i raised j7ss he flatted qq in the BB and flopped j-7-3 for his last 50bb
Depending on how you did in the 5/10 game you were in before your guys grudge match it seems like you may have booked a SOLID win that night congrats to you, im guessing it wasn't the hard of a match?
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07-12-2010 , 05:24 PM
i think its probably a good game for me, but its still pretty early to tell though. And nothing is ever "easy" when PLO is one of teh games haha. If we could have got that 3-5 handed it might have been a really fun game, we had one guy tell us he was gonna play but he never showed up and you know how tables go, once you get the ball rolling it can fill up pretty fast
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07-12-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by yankee grinder
I am glad you are giving us your opinion on things but I think it is too early to judge. And even if it isn't, why come on here and make it a less than diserable thing to come to Florida to play. It is like the media when they constantly talked about the mortgage crisis, they only made it worse.
Completely disagree. This is exactly the place to vent. I'm sure most cardrooms have somebody monitoring this forum (there are even some poker room directors who are regs on here), so if someone's got some bellyaching to do about how things are going, this is the place. Besides, for every guy like him, there's 5 others talking up how soft it is. So things will even out.

Yeah, the guy was pessimistic about the attendance, but like someone else said, the WSOP is in town, and if you know anybody in the restaurant biz they'll tell you business is always dead this time of year.

OT - As for the mortgage crisis, there's nothing that was going to prevent that, or even slow it down. All those morons buying houses they couldn't afford when the market was at it's peak, financing with those asinine interest-only mortgages, knowing full well they couldn't afford to make principle payments when they came due. I'm hardly Warren Buffett, but I saw that coming back in '06.
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07-13-2010 , 01:49 AM
Playin 5/10 with Antonio Tarver

didn't know he played here

Super LAG
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07-13-2010 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Sennz
Playin 5/10 with Antonio Tarver

didn't know he played here

Super LAG
he's from Orlando, have seen him there in the past. get those chips from Magic Man.
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07-13-2010 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sennz
Playin 5/10 with Antonio Tarver

didn't know he played here

Super LAG
i was in seat 10 ... u?
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07-13-2010 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sennz
Playin 5/10 with Antonio Tarver

didn't know he played here

Super LAG
Make sure not to fold Queens.
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07-13-2010 , 08:07 AM
Tarver, ex-Bucs QB Shaun King and some basketball player were there over the weekend playing.
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07-13-2010 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RUFFNECK
Tarver, ex-Bucs QB Shaun King and some basketball player were there over the weekend playing.
That is Jerome James. He got what is thought to be one of the most overpaid contracts in the history of the NBA. I think he got like a 2 year deal from the Knicks for like 13 milly.

Man, George Steinbrenner died this morning-RIP
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07-13-2010 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AppState'03
I agree that the comment was completely unprofessional, but how many hands should a dealer get out in 30 minutes in your opinion. 18 isn't a bad # for a single down.
100% agree. 18 hands, with the auto-shufflers, is something to be applauded, I would think.
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07-14-2010 , 12:41 AM
Just witnessed an absurd ruling which I'm pretty sure can't be right. I made a thread about it, but the unprofessional nature of the floor was horrifying. They wavered on the decision for 15 min and seemed to just wait and hope it would go away lol. Then they started getting in players' faces and arguing about it in an uncalled for manner. Also, as other people have mentioned, the Bravo system in theory is great, but it is not managed well at all. We had several people called to our table when we had no open seats and then went half an hour without getting 2 replacement players despite a list. I was not impressed at all.

Anyway, I'll be there tomorrow playing the tournament at noon and then cash games (5/10 or 2/5), wearing a Univ of South Carolina shirt and hat probably so feel free to come say hi.
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07-14-2010 , 03:53 AM
It's a very poorly run poker room. Newsflash, I know.
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07-14-2010 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerbrat
Just witnessed an absurd ruling which I'm pretty sure can't be right. I made a thread about it, but the unprofessional nature of the floor was horrifying. They wavered on the decision for 15 min and seemed to just wait and hope it would go away lol. Then they started getting in players' faces and arguing about it in an uncalled for manner. Also, as other people have mentioned, the Bravo system in theory is great, but it is not managed well at all. We had several people called to our table when we had no open seats and then went half an hour without getting 2 replacement players despite a list. I was not impressed at all.

Anyway, I'll be there tomorrow playing the tournament at noon and then cash games (5/10 or 2/5), wearing a Univ of South Carolina shirt and hat probably so feel free to come say hi.
The Bravo system has gotten better since day one but at times they are still having issues that I thiunk revolve around eithe rpeople not paying attention or caring or the system isnt getting info from the table.

My last two visits have had tables get down to 5 players when the players asked for a supervisor because they werent going to play with only five. One says "I'll have you filled in one minute" ( this was on the weekend) and he did. One has to wonder why we had three of the seats open for over a half an hour if he can basically walk up fron and have a full table set up in about 1 minute.

The other supervisor says "Just keep playing" about 3 times and assures us that she will get us some players. Ummm no how about we arent going to play until we have some players. Both dealers were very cool about and said "Guys Im not going to deal unless you want to" but the one supervisor had this attitude that we were going to simply because she said we had too. It was funny because when she said it there were five racks placed on the table instantly and we all started grabbing our chips.

Again we had three players in a matter of 1 minute even though 2-3 of the seats had been empty for 20-30 minutes.

I'm not sure but both of these scenarios appear to be cases of not looking at the system or it not working correctly. If nothing else when you see a popular level table getting low and their are no takers then start announcing you have openings.
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07-14-2010 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Flacks
The Bravo system has gotten better since day one but at times they are still having issues that I thiunk revolve around eithe rpeople not paying attention or caring or the system isnt getting info from the table.

My last two visits have had tables get down to 5 players when the players asked for a supervisor because they werent going to play with only five. One says "I'll have you filled in one minute" ( this was on the weekend) and he did. One has to wonder why we had three of the seats open for over a half an hour if he can basically walk up fron and have a full table set up in about 1 minute.

The other supervisor says "Just keep playing" about 3 times and assures us that she will get us some players. Ummm no how about we arent going to play until we have some players. Both dealers were very cool about and said "Guys Im not going to deal unless you want to" but the one supervisor had this attitude that we were going to simply because she said we had too. It was funny because when she said it there were five racks placed on the table instantly and we all started grabbing our chips.

Again we had three players in a matter of 1 minute even though 2-3 of the seats had been empty for 20-30 minutes.

I'm not sure but both of these scenarios appear to be cases of not looking at the system or it not working correctly. If nothing else when you see a popular level table getting low and their are no takers then start announcing you have openings.
As someone who is pretty well versed with how the Bravo system operates, there are a few reasons things like this happen:

First, players can be given instructions to go to a specific table, and since there aren't any seat buttons, they end up going wherever they see an open seat in a game they want.

Second, at a place like Hard Rock, where there are 50 (I think) tables, it becomes difficult to keep track of which tables have had players sent. That, combined with dealers not being used to logging players in (and often forgetting to log people in as Guests when they don't present a card), it can be a nightmare to keep things moving in a big room.

Ideally, players should *all* have cards, and should be logged into their table by the brush at the registration area. That way, they are "stuck" going to the table to which they were assigned, and the system is updates as soon as they are sent, as opposed to when they actually get there. Of course, that presents an entirely different issue, because tables will show as full, when people haven't ever taken their seats.
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07-14-2010 , 10:49 AM
If any of those things were the case I would understand. Everyone was logged in, the room was half full and the system at the table was showing the correct seats empty.

They did start logging people in up front but it seems hit and miss depending on who is there which would prevent people from randomly sitting down at tables. The dealers seem pretty good about explaining to people that they need to check in up front unless there are multiple seats open and they are seeing no one in the que.

I am not sure how the size of the room should have any bearing on keeping track of things. Isn't that what the system is designed for? Its just another case of a disorganized ( at times) room. You have brushes seating people and telling no one. Regulars cutting in front of players who have been called to seats that are now filled with the regular who was allowed to cut in line even though the brush is getting irate ( at times) with people.

Its a simple case of upper management being inept. You have to simply set up the rules and have everyone follow them. If a brush or supervisor wants to help someone switch tables then they take their card and put them in the system BEFORE just telling them what table to go to and holding up a seat for a half an hour.( this is particularly frustrating since they have the 15 minute rule even if you've been at that table for 15 hours) All players need to check in up front unless there are multiple openings and no one waiting.

Its very frustrating to have a brush yelling at people at the front counter to back up unless he called them and then have no less than 5 people who aren't on the list just walk up and tell them what seat they are taking even though those tables have waiting lists. I don't think this is typical but I watched it happen the first weekend. Again they could make things very easy on themselves by simply setting up rules that apply to everyone and are enforced.

It sounded like when they introduced the system very few had adequate training on it and it has been getting better.

I think the way around the your last point is to again institute a policy that covers the maximum time they are allowed to hold up a seat. The system might not be able to monitor that but the table could.
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07-14-2010 , 10:23 PM
All the regs who just go and grab a seat is absolute horse****. Ive been playing there for 4 years and never do that. If I want to play I put my name on the list and wait like everyone else. If they stopped letting all the regs do that then maybe the system wouldnt be such a cluster **** like it is right now.

Also, maybe it wanst 18 hands in 30 minutes....I wasnt exactly counting. All I can say it was about 45% of the amount of hands I get from every other dealer in the joint.

And another dealer they need to bounce is the old lesbian looking biker chick dealer with the graying hair. She is absolutly horrid. Berates players, etc.
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07-15-2010 , 04:02 AM
So over the absurdity of the HR. This place is ******ed. That being said, does anyone have cash for online money since I'm almost cash busto because of this place? I have stars and FTP, was wearing a USC shirt today and met several 2p2ers.
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07-15-2010 , 04:06 AM
[QUOTE=Mikess2001;20235426]All the regs who just go and grab a seat is absolute horse****. Ive been playing there for 4 years and never do that. If I want to play I put my name on the list and wait like everyone else. If they stopped letting all the regs do that then maybe the system wouldnt be such a cluster **** like it is right now.

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yeah this happened to me today, i was waiting for 5/10, first on the list and get told to go to my seat and some old guy sitting in it(dealers knew his name). he said the floor sent him to that seat, but after he realized i was supposed ot be there he said they sent him to another table but there wasnt a seat avaliable(people were changing seats)so the floor said that me being first on the list and waiting 30+ mins didnt matter because he was already sitting in the seat, so i should just wait some more. also WTF is with a 240$ mtt not having antees. this place is absurd. oi
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07-15-2010 , 07:31 AM
No problem with the staff last night but the players, well the "pros" were out in force.

For the first two hours the table had to deal with running commentary and a critique of every hand even when the hand was going on. CONSTANT glass tapping,talking about folded cards with people still in the hand, pointing out out who has done what so far and harrassing the fish etc .

Finally one of the dealers told them they needed to not discuss their folded cards or the board when people were in the hand. And of course the ironic thing was through their commentary one of them played equally as bad as the fish they would mock except his/her stupid moves were rewarded.

Hey "Pros", leave the commentary to the announcers, leave the fish alone and let them continue to make bad plays. It sucks when their bad play get you but in the long run you want them at the table.
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07-15-2010 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pseybert
It was nice playing with you on Tuesday. Don't worry about the name calling, arguing, and trash talk. That's all part of the game imo.

I was absolutely on a tear before running into you. The stuff you were saying to me really worked, and got me off of my game big time. I played incredibly dumb, was aware I was playing dumb, and still didn't care. I wanted nothing better than to bust you, and that unbelievably horrid girl that was sitting to my right.

And what do I have to show for it? Nothing but a loss of two buy-ins and a good lesson in letting my emotion get to me at the poker table. I spent the day punishing myself by dumping my live roll into my savings account.

Anyway, good luck, I hope you kill it at the 2-5. I'll be back in a month or so.

trash talk, name calling aint part of the game, i hate when losers wearing FT jerseys, who watched WSOP and travel channel for the last 4-5 years do that, 99% are so bad anyway

if ur a professional, or there to make money, you should treat the players as ur customers /rant

now is there ever 10-20+ nl games going? ( what i came to find out)
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07-15-2010 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BK1248
trash talk, name calling aint part of the game, i hate when losers wearing FT jerseys, who watched WSOP and travel channel for the last 4-5 years do that, 99% are so bad anyway

if ur a professional, or there to make money, you should treat the players as ur customers /rant

now is there ever 10-20+ nl games going? ( what i came to find out)
well said... during most of the week the biggest game running is 5/10. but there could def be a 10/20 or 10/25 running at night or during the weekend.
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07-15-2010 , 01:22 PM
It is 1000% the dealers responsibility to keep the players in line during the course of the hand. If players are discussing their folded cards, etc the dealer needs to tell them to STFU....but they never do.

Case in point, im playing at a table and these 3 guys are talking to each other in another language before hands, during hands, after hands, etc. They are middle eastern or something (they were speaking like some weird Turkish language or something). After 10 minutes of this I give the dealer a WTF look and he FINALLY reprimanded the players but they still continued their antics and the dealer did nothing. Jesus Christ.....control the game!
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07-15-2010 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Flacks
If any of those things were the case I would understand. Everyone was logged in, the room was half full and the system at the table was showing the correct seats empty.

They did start logging people in up front but it seems hit and miss depending on who is there which would prevent people from randomly sitting down at tables. The dealers seem pretty good about explaining to people that they need to check in up front unless there are multiple seats open and they are seeing no one in the que.

I am not sure how the size of the room should have any bearing on keeping track of things. Isn't that what the system is designed for? Its just another case of a disorganized ( at times) room. You have brushes seating people and telling no one. Regulars cutting in front of players who have been called to seats that are now filled with the regular who was allowed to cut in line even though the brush is getting irate ( at times) with people.

Its a simple case of upper management being inept. You have to simply set up the rules and have everyone follow them. If a brush or supervisor wants to help someone switch tables then they take their card and put them in the system BEFORE just telling them what table to go to and holding up a seat for a half an hour.( this is particularly frustrating since they have the 15 minute rule even if you've been at that table for 15 hours) All players need to check in up front unless there are multiple openings and no one waiting.

Its very frustrating to have a brush yelling at people at the front counter to back up unless he called them and then have no less than 5 people who aren't on the list just walk up and tell them what seat they are taking even though those tables have waiting lists. I don't think this is typical but I watched it happen the first weekend. Again they could make things very easy on themselves by simply setting up rules that apply to everyone and are enforced.

It sounded like when they introduced the system very few had adequate training on it and it has been getting better.

I think the way around the your last point is to again institute a policy that covers the maximum time they are allowed to hold up a seat. The system might not be able to monitor that but the table could.
I'm sorry, but have to call Shenanigans on this. I have seen plenty of 50+ table rooms that can effectively fill seats in an orderly and organized manner.

Both with and without the Bravo system. If there is a consistent lack of seats being filled, this is just a poorly run room, with either at best lazy floors/brushs, and at worst incompetent with poor communication.
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