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Old 07-13-2018, 02:11 PM   #5126
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I'm no expert on tribal law but there's at least some sense in which they're under the jurisdiction of state regulation. I'm pretty sure it's not just coincidence that Muck, Tul, Sno, et al observe the $500 max bet limit, as though each tribe independently decided to impose that same limit.
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Old 07-13-2018, 06:23 PM   #5127
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The Snoqualmie Casino Poker Room will be closing August 2 at 6:00PM
Please be aware of the following Poker Room promotional changes:

Player Supported Jackpot Rake (PSJ) ends on July 25, 2018 at 8:00AM
High Hand weekly total values will increase (approximately double) starting July 25 through
August 2, 2018 at 5:00PM
Monte Carlo promotion ends on August 2, 2018 at 8:00AM
Remaining PSJ funds will be distributed to an alternate in-house progressive game

source: https://www.snocasino.com/gaming/table-games/
Another poker player screw-job.
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Old 07-13-2018, 06:27 PM   #5128
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I'm speculating here,,,,but is Sno regulated by WA.gov rules? I assume Sno is under tribal law....
The Tribes own the state gambling commission. They bought $$$ these Washington State Gambling Commission clowns fair and square. Al Capone would be proud. This state is so corrupt. BTW I know first hand having been involved in doing business with our State. You can discount my claim. No matter- it is true.
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:32 AM   #5129
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The fact that Snoqualmie's tribal announcements refer to PSJ as "PSJ rake" should have tipped you off. The WAC rules you are citing are for non-tribal operators, not tribal operators. As far as tribal operators are concerned, it's all rake. Yes, there are two drop slots, but after the count they go into the same bucket. None of it has to go back to the players. None.


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Old 07-14-2018, 12:36 PM   #5130
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that why places get away with this stuff as people dont vote with their feet.

if players let some of the joints that dont have much action that they will start coming if they have a low rake where small stakes players can actually win and grow their bankroll, then things have a chance of changing.
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Old 07-14-2018, 03:03 PM   #5131
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The fact that Snoqualmie's tribal announcements refer to PSJ as "PSJ rake" should have tipped you off. The WAC rules you are citing are for non-tribal operators, not tribal operators.
I tried to verify this but I didn't spend too much time digging so I may have missed something. Title 230 is about the Gambling Commission, who appears to regulate WA tribals as well. Chapter 230-15 is card game rules and seems to pertain to local (nontribal) cardrooms although I couldn't confirm that in my browsing.

Clearly the WSGC has a role in regulating tribals, which they're calling Class III: https://www.wsgc.wa.gov/tribal-gaming/casino-locations

I'm not very familiar with this so if anyone has any pointers in how to find the relevant legislation, I'm all ears and will be appreciative!
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Old 07-15-2018, 05:47 AM   #5132
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Here's a link to another current thread that is useful to this discussion :

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-down-1717174/

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Old 07-15-2018, 11:53 PM   #5133
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Moving to Seattle and wondering what the best casino is recommended to play 1/3?
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Old Yesterday, 02:56 AM   #5134
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Fortune on the south end. Red Dragon on the north. Tribals if you're far from the Seattle city limits or can't bear the thought of "no limit" with a $300 max bet. (Tribals are $500 max bet. Still a 4-bet max per round.)

I know Tulalip has regular $1-3. I thought the Muckleshoot had added it but they used to start at $3-5 (or limit).
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Old Yesterday, 10:22 AM   #5135
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Fortune on the south end. Red Dragon on the north. Tribals if you're far from the Seattle city limits or can't bear the thought of "no limit" with a $300 max bet. (Tribals are $500 max bet. Still a 4-bet max per round.)

I know Tulalip has regular $1-3. I thought the Muckleshoot had added it but they used to start at $3-5 (or limit).
Thanks! I've read some other reviews online that fortune has some issues with collusion what are thoughts on this forum about this? I think Red Dragon and Fortune poker and casino caribbean are going to be about the same distance so any preference or explanation of differences between these? Also whats the rake like is it standard among all of the casinoes or does one have better rake than others?
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Old Yesterday, 11:03 AM   #5136
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Thanks! I've read some other reviews online that fortune has some issues with collusion what are thoughts on this forum about this? I think Red Dragon and Fortune poker and casino caribbean are going to be about the same distance so any preference or explanation of differences between these? Also whats the rake like is it standard among all of the casinoes or does one have better rake than others?
Dragon has very "unique" rules. Their dealers and floor are very nice, but floor is inconsistent with rulings. Manager doesn't seem to care about the rule set. Familiarize yourself with their rules, always ask for clarification from the dealer on players action. You'll enjoy yourself if you know what you're getting into.
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Old Yesterday, 11:30 AM   #5137
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Thanks! I've read some other reviews online that fortune has some issues with collusion what are thoughts on this forum about this? I think Red Dragon and Fortune poker and casino caribbean are going to be about the same distance so any preference or explanation of differences between these? Also whats the rake like is it standard among all of the casinoes or does one have better rake than others?
There's no more collusion at Fortune than anywhere else from what Ive seen. You get the typical regs sometimes playing soft against each other, etc. The rake at Fortune is 3+3 max for the 1/3 and is similar in the other rooms. I cant speak for all the rooms you noted, but I think the general consensus is that Fortune is ran very well, the food is by far the best, and the room is nice.

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I tried to verify this but I didn't spend too much time digging so I may have missed something. Title 230 is about the Gambling Commission, who appears to regulate WA tribals as well. Chapter 230-15 is card game rules and seems to pertain to local (nontribal) cardrooms although I couldn't confirm that in my browsing.

Clearly the WSGC has a role in regulating tribals, which they're calling Class III: https://www.wsgc.wa.gov/tribal-gaming/casino-locations

I'm not very familiar with this so if anyone has any pointers in how to find the relevant legislation, I'm all ears and will be appreciative!
Amazing. In other words the tribal poker rooms can do whatever they please with the player drop. It is a rake, a rake they can use for slots, roulette, pi gow, you name it. This stinks.

Do you trust a casino, without regulation or oversight, to administer your money?
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