I posted about security. Look it up.

I am still very much concerned, but the only argument you can present is walking to the side lot. Pro tip: don't park in side lot. I have been playing a lot of weekend games in Dragon and always arriving around peak hours, never once have I had to park in the side lot.

"Wait service is great in Tulalip" says no one ever. Tulalip service has always been bad at best. At least in Dragon, they have 3 servers and a bartender. How many does Tulalip have?

I am a big proponent of having multiple options as a poker player, but I am not about giving casinos business for hardly trying.

Your argument is weak at best.

FWIW, over a thousand hours in Tulalip over last 5 years. Couple hundreds in Dragon this year.

I'm not presenting an argument of side lot being the only issue. I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm giving you my opinion.

We clearly play with each other all the time. That's hilarious.

Best of luck to you.

I really wish there are better reasons to play in Tulalip than slightly better food service and valet parking.

I guess there are always 2nd hand smoke, long walks to restroom, $.50/hr food discount, and "friendly" floors in Tulalip to look forward to.

BREAKING NEWS

Apparently Red Dragon will be offering $1-3 PLO hi-lo 8 or better on Mondays starting next week. I'd guess that's the same as PLO high only, $100 min and $300 max.

TBQH PLO8 is not usually sustainable even when PLOH is. The split pot format means the good players are often freerolling the bad ones for stacks so a good player can get both a nice edge and low variance. I know of no regular PLO8 game anywhere, although during the WSOP some spring up and a few places have PLOH/PLO8 mix.

Anyway, it's a fun game and they know their donor base better than I do so maybe it will be a great thing.

Also it seems they already have the IC for triple draw, and I think the Hideaway is close or maybe already has it, so hopefully we get some regular TD 2-7 soon.

Is this HiLo PLO or BigO?

This was be very fun.

So besides rake and food which rooms do you guys make the most money in? For me it’s Tulalip followed by hideaway and then the dragon. Tulalip is just so soft.

Played at Red Dragon last Friday night(6/1).

Got there around 7:30pm. The lot was full so I parked off site lot and walked 2-3 minute to the building. Agreed that it's bit iffy but once you are walking down the 99 then there are many cars so getting mugged without anyone noticing is very small. But you should be aware of your surroundings when you park. Personally, not much different when parking at Tulalip.

And no it's not 22 minute drive from Red Dragon to Tulalip, even with no traffic. Not sure how fast DZ McNasty drives...

Didn't know they had high hand promotional going on so I was not expect to get a seat in 1/3 or 2/5. Floor person behind the chip counter saw me right away and asked for my name and games. He took care of the food and I sat down at the bar to eat. Friendly wait staff and well run gaming staff.

I sat in 1/3 within 20 minutes. I recognized many of the Tulalip regs in my table and other tables near me.

Game was good, mix of rec(4-5), reg(2-3, one really aggressive) and one nit. One reg to the right of me said that Tulalip only has 3 tables running even on some weekend. I can't verify this since I haven't been there over 1 year.

Was doing well until UTG(on tilt with second short buy-in) raised to $15(I think) and EVERYONE called. Flop came A, 10, 6 rainbow. UTG went all in for $80'ish. Folds to me at MP and I re-raised all in with AQ for another $200'ish. All folded to the SB, who covers me, tanks for 10 seconds and calls. Brick and brick. SB slow rolls pocket AA. Clearly a very, very rec player.. He said he wasn't sure he had a winning hand. lol

Had to leave due to different commitment but it would definitely be +EV if I stuck around for another couple of hours.

My last experience at Tulalip was not good. The game staff didn't care, especially the guys running the floor, wait staff forgot my food and drink and had to ask multiple times. The dealers are mix bags, some good and some not so good.

does dragon keep a live list of active games anywhere online?

It's weird. They supposedly have a dedicated site for signup (they'll keep you on the list for 30 minutes) so they must have a list of games running, but I can't find a link from https://red-dragon-casino-mountlake.com . Haven't used it yet so eager to hear from someone who has.

They have an app

Yea, i dont see it on their website and they arent on Bravo (most of the seattle rooms discussed itt are not either) and poker atlas did not have a live list that i saw

http://reddragonwaitlist.com

6 1/3 PLO games on a Wednesday!

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Their floor will give you a sign up code, if you have an iPhone you just load the website if you have an adroid there is an actual app. Works pretty damn well.

Does anyone have a comprehensive list of local tournaments that are like, $100+ monthly?

Thank you

Would be interested in this as well.

I feel as though Atlas isn't accurate at all.

Fortune changed the rule so a straddle no longer counts as a first raise.

The triple draw dream (take 2) is getting a lot closer to reality. I'll post details when I hear it's about to happen. Sounds like the IC is in place but still a few regulatory kink. Who all's interested?

This will really improve the 1/3 there. A welcome change.

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Yeah, it is.

The old rule sucked. Especially if the first raise is small, to like 12 or something. I then feel compelled to mincap with my entire flatting range.

I haven't played in Seattle since 2014 but I would be most intersted in playing some TD 27 the next time I am up that way.

Known angle shooter got away with working his angle the other night in Big O. (Curious if anyone here was there.) I pointed out a pitched card that he wanted to keep. So he did his thing: "Oh yeah? What was it? What was it?" I resisted saying anything about it but finally gave in. Hopefully everyone is aware, in this case it doesn't matter; it's impossible for me to angle here unless I see a bad card and don't point it out.

Dealer calls the floor. Known Angle Shooter continues the commotion: "He said it was a black spot card but it was the 2! He's just trying to take away my deuce!" Which to reiterate is stupid. I saw that it was a 2 or 3 regardless of color, but it doesn't matter if I said it was the king . (If I knew it was a deuce and wanted him to deprive him of it, then that validates that the card did indeed flash. If I'm lying and it didn't flash, it's just a random card, as likely to be a 9 as a 2 or A.)

Anyway in the commotion he got what he wanted. Floor misunderstood, thought he had fumbled his own card. Needless to say there's no way in hell that same player would have acted that way if I'd seen a nine. I racked up after one hand, ldo. I should get less upset, play it cool, rack up quietly and discuss away from the table. Sorry. Cheating, even minor angling, really really upsets me.

I hold no grudge against the dealer or the floor. I'm assured it's a training issue they'll work out and I believe them. But watch out for those angles out there.

see if just one person sees a flashed card and gets to have it taken in then he gets a free angle. if its a bad one he keeps quiet and a good one he speaks up.

thats why the best rule is if its flashed face up it is taken away.

Yeah, that's my point. If I were going to angle the angle would be to keep quiet after seeing a nine. (But I would speak up.) OTOH if this player saw his own nine flash he would ask for a replacement at breakneck speed. Even if we're both angling, our self-interest protects each of us. It simply doesn't matter whether I can name the suit, the color, the rank, etc.