I fell in the mud crossing that creek once. It was brutal.

Lol, I briefly considered it once but decided its ridiculous.

This was one of my favorite poker moments.

You weren't even there! Were you?

Your judgement is better than mine, lol. Definitely only crossable during summer months.

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We sat next to each other in the 20 game and you sheepishly told me what had happened.

Walk to the sidewalk, then back to Fortune. No big deal. How many times have you walked farther than that at a larger casino parking lot?

Sorry to be the voice of reason.

Anyone surprised that poker players are lazy?

Anyone from here going to the annual Tulalip poker tournament?

I am a regular rec mtt player. I play a lot of Tulalip's Thursday and end of the month Sunday Tourneys (the bigger ones on their schedule).

I played one of the special event tourneys at the end of the year. I typically expect the rake for their bigger tourneys to be 10-15%. I played in the 360 dollar one and when i looked at the receipt the rake was a full 60 bucks (20% rake). Seriously Tulalip. I understand aking 20-25% for your crappy 40 dollar tourneys but for a bigger 360 that seems way to high.

You got me on tilt now.

For the cash games with the bad beat and high hand promotions, most of the Tulalip floor managers and dealers make a big-deal as if the house is paying for them. All the while, the casino pockets 10% of these PSJ funds for "managing" the process. To my favorite rant, the weekend player plays this PSJ rake but most of the Tulalip promotions exclude weekends. This is immoral.

One of their best full-time long-time dealers confided to me that the player-supported jackpot number pay-outs do not add-up. He claims the Tulalip does not pay back the 90% legally required and pockets the difference. This practice runs counter to their operating agreement with the Washington State Gambling Commission. The PSJ is a trust-fund.

I believe this dealer is right.

That's a pretty serious accusation. If true, gaming commission should be involved.

Not serious in this state. Case in point when Diamond Lils was caught red-handed and confessed to transferring some $32K PSJ trust-fund monies to its bottom line. What did the Gambling Commission do about this crime? Nothing for the players... absolutely not a penny was returned to the PSJ fund. The Commission did collect handsome fines for itself however.

Yeah, Washington state is more focused on keeping online poker a felony instead of protecting its citizens.

In review, Diamond Lil's embezzled $37,000 PSJ monies. The cost to Lil's was $7,000 plus 2 days closure. No restitution was made to the players trust fund.

Wanted to post the official and legal documents for this outrage. But the related public documents are not on-line any longer (to the best of my googling). This Washington State Gambling Commission Settlement Order was executed on September 12, 2013, signed by Lori Bender, owner of Diamond Lil's.

Threads on the matter are found here
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...1/index83.html

I think Tulalip’s bottom line would be severely impacted if it was shut down for 2 days.

But it still wouldn't help the cheated players.

But it could prevent future incidents. If we cannot change the past, we could at least try to prevent it from happening in the future.

Best case scenario after we're successful in getting a Diamond Lil's like judgement against Tulalip over mis-management of the PSJ: they get rid of the PSJ

But I think it would be more likely they just get rid of poker all together. They have been trending towards that for years

Getting rid of PSJ would basically end all traffic to the room, so that's not feasible.

And it sounds like you rather get skimmed off the top than have the room closed down. I am not sure I could agree with that.

I haven't enjoyed playing poker in Vegas in years until this last trip in December playing the 8/16 Omaha game at Orleans. The tables were horrible, and fun.

Would anyone be interested in playing $25/$50 HORSE if I hosted at game at Palace in Lakewood?

Maybe you should start with "would anyone be interested in playing in Lakewood?"

They should be. It's booming now. 15 tables. Massive Royals (biggest one is over $20k). LHE: 3/6, 4/8, 8/16, 15/30 and 30/60 (on Sundays); O8: 6/12; 1/3/5 PLO (on Wednesdays)...

And the worst players in Washington.

Even so, not many people are willing to drive from Seattle or Eastside down to Lakewood.

Plus in case you haven't heard, limit is a dying game.