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Just moved to the Seattle area, a few questions about poker here:

Do any casinos run prop/house players? Is it legal?

Does anywhere run 8/16 LHE outside of Fortune and Lakewood?

Is 3+3 the standard rake here, does anywhere have a $5 or $7 total rake including promo drop?

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05-12-2017 , 10:54 AM

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poke4fun

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Tulalip used prop players years ago, haven't heard anywhere else recently.

Can hardly think of where LHE is spread outside of Fortune and Caribbean.

Only place that might charge more than 3+3 is probably Hideaway, given that its owner was the one that made it possible to charge more.

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05-12-2017 , 04:22 PM

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PokerLM

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I see the occasional prop player at Fortune and I think I've seen it twice at Muckleshoot, but definitely not the norm.

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05-12-2017 , 06:11 PM

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poke4fun

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You are probably mistaking offshift dealers as prop.

Some of the properties do use dealers as semi-prop. Hideaway was doing that, not sure if it still is.

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05-12-2017 , 06:24 PM

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TheDarkKnight

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I used to prop for a Kitsap poker room all of 2012 and I was playing any time we had a seat open from 2013- Aug. 2015 when I was the floor. But when I propped I played my B+ game. I mean I played to kill, but I left some of the more exploitive lines out of my game.

I propped as a floor in Lakewood also (8/2015-10/2016) but the traffic was so much better there I really just sat down to fill a seat until the game was full. Legit F game.

I've never seen a prop - other than myself or an on-duty floor - in any other Puget Sound room.

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05-12-2017 , 06:57 PM

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Jadedfish

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Question for you guys, I just moved to the Seattle area and was planning on playing both at the Fortune Poker room as well as at Tulalip Casino. I called both places asking them if they offered player accounts where I could keep some money in, and they both said they didn't. Is there a reason they don't offer this service to poker players?

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05-12-2017 , 07:41 PM

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poke4fun

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No room in Seattle spreads big enough game that would justify providing player safety deposit box. What area did you come from to even be expecting such service?

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05-12-2017 , 09:23 PM

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timeofyouppi

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Originally Posted by poke4fun

No room in Seattle spreads big enough game that would justify providing player safety deposit box. What area did you come from to even be expecting such service?

I'm surprised that Tulalip doesn't offer this as they have other table games.

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05-12-2017 , 09:24 PM

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timeofyouppi

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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight

Thanks for the answer, dealers/floors playing to fill seats isn't really an issue but there was a big difference in game quality among the LA casinos that used a ton of props vs those that used few to none

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05-12-2017 , 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by timeofyouppi

I'm surprised that Tulalip doesn't offer this as they have other table games.

With $500 max bet in all of WA tribal casinos in any game, it doesn't justify security boxes.

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05-12-2017 , 10:19 PM

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TheDarkKnight

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Originally Posted by timeofyouppi

Typically if any dealer in this area is in the game you will be happy about it.

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05-13-2017 , 01:15 AM

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Jadedfish

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Originally Posted by poke4fun

No room in Seattle spreads big enough game that would justify providing player safety deposit box. What area did you come from to even be expecting such service?

It's not about how big of a game you play, just the convenience of a poker room/casino offering a player bank account so that you don't have to worry about bringing or leaving with a lot of money on you. I used to live in San Diego, and it is normal for the card rooms down there to offer this service. I only played 2/3 nlhm down there, but I had about 6k (20 buy-ins) in my player bank account at any given time so that I wouldn't have to go to my regular bank every time I wanted to play or keep a large amount of cash in my house. It just seems strange to me that they don't offer this service up here, but every place is different I guess.

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05-13-2017 , 03:41 AM

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I get why for certain players, but if most games don't require more than few hundreds to sit, why would casinos assume burden of providing security boxes?

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05-13-2017 , 08:59 PM

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Ray Zee

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managers dont get paid more when they make more for the casino. best they can get is a pat on the back. so all it does is make more work for them for nothing.

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05-13-2017 , 09:40 PM

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Bantam222

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Does the casino providing this service make them more money?

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05-15-2017 , 12:45 AM

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AKQJ10

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Unfortunately more common than not around Seattle.

Yep. I know the floors in the little cardrooms have a tough job but it still seems lazy of them not to poll the players and see if they can work it out. It's like they'd rather have one super-stable game instead of 2 pretty stable games (one or two seats open, which usually fill quickly). But after they do this enough times that everyone knows it will happen, from that point there's no such thing as a super-stable game, because most of the 10 people on the list went elsewhere because they got fed up sitting around.

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05-15-2017 , 02:23 AM

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Bighurt52235

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Games around here break so fast. Almost nobody wants to play <7 handed.

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05-15-2017 , 02:31 AM

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DZ McNasty

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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235

Games around here break so fast. Almost nobody wants to play <7 handed.

We stared PLO at tulalip tonight three handed. Not always the case.

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05-15-2017 , 01:56 PM

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We stared PLO at tulalip tonight three handed. Not always the case.

That's like saying Tulalip 5/10 must be great because 1/3 had 8 tables.

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05-15-2017 , 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235

Games around here break so fast. Almost nobody wants to play <7 handed.

It is very true. Problem with small rooms is that players drop like flies, and average players complain as if someone just ran over their dogs.

After a while of dealing with "active" players at the table complaining about short-handed, most rooms respond by keeping a longer wait list. It's better to keep sitting players happy.

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05-15-2017 , 02:00 PM

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DZ McNasty

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Originally Posted by poke4fun

That's like saying Tulalip 5/10 must be great because 1/3 had 8 tables.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was implying.

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05-15-2017 , 02:57 PM

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Ray Zee

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as far as leaving money in a box or account in a casino---

remember, *especially* in smaller cardrooms if they go bankrupt. and if they do they are not going to announce it before the exact second they do it. then,

they will lock up all the accounts and take them for themselves and let you try to sort it out in the bankruptcy court as to whether that money is theirs or yours. and the judge then decides what is left in assets who gets what.

it has happened before in casinos and cardrooms so isnt out of the question.

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05-17-2017 , 05:43 PM

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TheHitmanofPoker

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Anyone know about the tournaments here in the various casinos? As in the kinds of players I would be facing along with how many players on average? Or where is the best place for tournaments?

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05-18-2017 , 12:38 PM

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King Spew

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In Seattle tomorrow and Saturday as a lacrosse official and will be making my first trip to Fortune to play LHE (hope they run a table or two at my limit...... $.01/$.02

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Is there a Players card type deal for benes? Is it true they take a jackpot drop but with a limited weekend payout?.....us fish need incentives

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