Seattle is a poker mecca only in the sense that there are lots of Indian casinos as well as cardrooms spread all over the metropolitan area, which makes it unique as one of the few places outside Vegas where you have so many options to play live poker.

But looking past that, the casinos are very far apart from one another, there's no real no-limit poker($500 max bet which is ******ed), the players while still bad are better than what you'd find in southern or midwestern casinos, living costs are above average for an american city and this isnt the greatest place to make a living as a live pro. as been said above, vancouver is a much better place just across the border to play live poker.

but seattle is a nice city though, if anyone wants to move there for live poker that should be the reason for their move, not poker itself.

So Snoqualmie would be considered the best for 3-5 nl? Do games run on weekdays during the day?

Also could someone outline the exact rules regarding betting in nl/spread limit games?

thanks

Sno runs 2/5 with max buyin $300 while Tulalip and Muckleshoot run 3/5 with $500 max so there's a significant difference. on the weekend it probably doesnt matter as much though since games would be looser therefore stacks do build up significantly but during the week if you want 3/5 then you'd be disappointed at the 2/5 stacks at Sno.

Spread limit in WA is somewhere between normal fixed limit (FL) and no limit (NL). Take a 3/5 game (Snoqualmie seems to call them "no limit" games while Muckleshoot calls them spread limit) for example. Blinds are $3 and $5, with the buyin being whatever the room decides. Like in NL, you can raise any random amount you want over the big blind size, but the maximum raise would be $500. So preflop if you're first in, you can raise to anything between $10 and $505. The other difference between this game and standard no limit is that there is a four bet cap on each street (similar to FL).

The $500 limit applies at the tribal casinos; elsewhere it is $100, which you'll usually see with $1 and $2 blinds.

I've been at Snoqualmie playing $4/$8 FL, and heard them tell people they were running both 2/5 and 3/5. The 3/5 had a bigger max buyin than the 2/5, but I don't remember the particulars or which day of the week it was. Supposedly they also run a 5/10 game on some day of the week...

5/10 on monday. Up to 3 tables as recently as feb.

4 tables the last few weeks. Starts about noon and goes pretty much all night until Omaha (5/5; PLO) goes on Tuesday. (1-2 tables of this).

can anyone give good insight to how the 5/5 PLO games are at SNO? Average stack sizes, preflop raises, number of fish per table, etc etc.........

If 3/6, 4/8, and 2-20 spread are your games then seattle is indeed a poker Mecca

it sounds like Tulalip is the casino you are having issues with, not washington poker per se..
You're experience at the Canadian casino does have me interested in making a run for the border

I'm sure that's partly it. I hate Tulalip with a passion. But what other casino offers 1/2 or 1/3 nl games. Angel of the winds does on weekends. I don't know of any others.

played 5-5 spread at the Muckelshoot on Friday, ended up pulling out a decent win. The game was really loose at first and then tightened up. I don't understand the the two or three guys that fold for hours to pick up a monster and take down a 20 pot. One thing that frustrates me is the players who play a hand or two then get up and leave and keep doing this continuously throughout the night.

I guess I would classify only playing 1/2 or 1/3 as "bankroll issues" like I said above, so it might be a little harder to find a good game every night. I've heard good things about the Hollywood 1/2-100 game.

Sno 2/5 is pretty bread n butter if you're aquanted with the initial short buy-in play. Often you can get 100+bb deep and players are making mistakes for their stack. I only had about 100 hours in the game but I think I was at ~90/hr(not sustainable), but I think a win rate of ~40 is achievable playing mostly good times(evenings, wekends, etc).

At the 5/10nl and 5/5plo level its not hard to find games.

Sno's 2/5 60bb max buyin is pretty ******ed if you ask me... their logic that "this encourages players to join instead of feeling intimidated" doesn't wash when the casino is located closest to higher-income suburbs out of the big 3 Indian casinos.

LOL. Yeah, that pretty much nails it (and I love Seattle).


q/q

I have spoken to several people who floor there as well as some of the good regs (most of them are pretty bad imho). As far as I can tell, the general consensus is that the buyin is for 2-5 is capped at 300 to help preserve the game and protect the fish.

If you think about it, it kinda makes sense. Like when a fish is sitting with 1k+ and the max buyin is only 300 it takes them way longer to lose. The good players have to get their stack up which is kinda hard if you're playing good, patient poker and not catching any cards. Mainly because people raise so big pre and it's not really correct to call 25 or 30 pre with only 250-300 behind. Also, when ur only playing 60bbs your cards are way more important so if you're carddead it sucks but the best you can do is wait it out. The other option is to take a few too many flops and gambol it up and try to get it in with a pair+FD or something like that. Hopefully my rant makes sense.

Fair assumption, 60bbs forces people to gamble a little bit. From my experiences, if the game is an hour in you will have at least 4 people at 100bbs. Strictly due to the fact that a shallow game allows more all ins. Once you reach that plateau though, the better players stick out like a sore thumb. Also most fish in that game don't buy in for the full 300, most just rebuy for 100-200 and do it 4 to 5 times in a sitting. Also the 3/5 game mostly goes only when "competent regs" get the game going. All in all though this is my casino of choice, due to the fact that once you get a decent enough stack it's fairly simple to just run over the table. It's also amazing how one little $10 straddle would effect someones play.

I've talked quite a bit about this with my former roommate when I was living in Seatown. The value of getting deep in that game is huge in certain games(depending who else is deep), and in some cases worth taking slightly -ev all-ins.

I played this game on Thurs and actually liked it a lot. They had one game of it going, but probably 7 players had 100+bb stacks. No limped pots for the first 2 rounds. Good action, and overall poor players. I guess when the players are bad enough to be willing to put money in the pot way behind, the structure matters far less.

That being said I'm sure its higher variance than a 100bb bi game and you should probably have 3 bi + with you to be able to play it right.

I agree with this 100%.

i have gotten 5 BI deep in that game and felt fine about it.

I always take no less than 3 bi's with me.

hey guys

if there is enough interest, id like to start a seattle poker skype group

please only apply if you are a pro or semi pro in either the 2-40 or 2-100 spread games at the non-tribals, or the no limit games at the tribals

pm me your name, most frequent poker room, stakes, and skype id

what's a skype group?
i just want to know when there's a big game going or when people want to start one.
is skype > twitter for that?

anyone sign up?