I know it's good for NL, but do they have limit HE there regularly (20-40 or higher)?

nope, the only LHE they ever spread is 4/8. The only place I know of that spreads 20/40 is diamond lils. parkers always has 8/16 and occasionally 12/24. muckleshoot i believe had a 50/100 game in the past but i dont think its been spread there in a long time.

Muckleshoot does have a BIG limit game on Thur/Sat. 100/200 w/overs. Sometimes they play a mixed game though

i havent been down to muckleshoot in a while, does that game run consistently?

yeah play with what is it 3 WSOP bracelet winners? one of which who happens to be one of the best limit players online

haha no thanks i think ill stick to 1/2 and 2/5 lol

How long do the Tulalip weekend tournaments typically last?

And what are the numbers on the bounty tournament? I saw it's $65 buy in with $1000 added on their site... how much do you get for each KO?

Sometimes the game is 50/100, depends on who's there. Game is mostly shorthanded. Usually LHE/o8 mix.

I've played in the 30/60 o8 game there a few years back; it was pretty good then. But I know half of the LHE players in the bigger game there, and wow, you could not pick a worse game to play in.

Exactly, and now the only other o8 game is 4/8. There's no middle ground.

Bummer. Sad to hear there's no mid-high O8 game going there. The 10/20 HORSE game at Parker's was good and I wish something larger would get going; Jack and the others would have gladly played higher (I think they played 100/200 mixed at Tulalip 4-5 years ago, what I wouldn't give to have played in that) but it never did get going.

The 30/60 O8 game at Muck was almost always playable and usually quite good if you don't mind shorthanded action. I think it ran Tues-Thurs and started around 10 AM if my memory serves me right? I remember playing it mostly 5-6 handed with a few pretty nice marks in the game, with one or two fairly sharp players as well.

how was the Muckleshoot Winter Poker Classic for those that played? Any notables win or final table anything? I didnt make it due to being having poor BR management

for the seattle live regs, how are the games now compared to 3 months ago before Stars and Full Tilt banned online poker from WA state? more players in the pokerrooms? softer? harder?

I think it's the same old, same old. Games are the same, There was enough of a player base where it all depends on the game. I haven't noticed a real difference in the play of no limit talent.

After playing most every Tulalip saturday morning tournament for the past 5 years... I QUIT. The reasons: 1- The Tulalip rake is obscene; 2- The player count keeps shrinking; 3- Discontinuing the format of two semi-annual free-roll tournaments for those who place first through fifth was a mistake.

^^ Indeed. I like going out there to splash around live. However, for MTT's I really miss pokerstars.

I just stopped playing because I went busto, but in its day those $90 dollar Saturday tournaments were great plus we had that freeroll in the end of it all

anyone have any information on the current state of the aurora casinos?? hollywood/parkers/drift/hideaway?

Letting Spanky leave was a mistake. He did an amazing job for their tourneys and always had some sort of goal based series that kept you coming back. Anyway he went to sno, but I was just there and I guess he's now out of the biz.

Tournaments around here suck period. The only one maybe worth it is the last Sunday of the month at Tulalip. That said, I thought the winter classic at the Muck was pretty good and I'd call it a success as far as turn out. Obv adding 50k had a lot to do with that. I did ask a couple different floor ppl/TD's and both said they should be running these at least twice a year. That's a good sign because when I asked them before the series they said they were gonna see how this did and decide based on it's success.

For anyone that missed it, here's what it was: They actually made the first event 10k starting stack, even though it was advertised online as 6k. The players got this changed, through bitching and threats to not play.

The games were sick guys. Live poker is soooo good. I bricked all three tournaments but had no problem getting my money in good and there were mistakes made on almost every action of every hand.

The lives games were a dream as well. Playing 3-5 which is pretty much the lowest nl game they have (I think) was super sick. It was not uncommon to make 1k-2k just playing abc while watching a football game on TV or having some dinner. The game, and I **** you not, plays softer then 10nl game online.

I played at both sno and the muck and probably played about 10-15 different tables and the were ALL good. The best thing? The limping. I had completely forgotten about that in live but there was constant limping, and from EP, and almost no pressure put on anyone in these games except when they felt like betting stacks post flop with either bluffs or top pair type hands. This post is obv a wall of text but guys it changed my whole outlook and blew my mind. Go play some live 3-5nl if you get a chance, and at every opportunity. You will not be disappointed.

By the way, I sold action in the Winter Classic. Obv I'm not happy about bricking them but if you can show any success in the game, you should be able to play a good tournament weather broke or not. I sold out in less than an hour, IIRC.

Investors realize how soft and great live is and if you can beat online, hell, if you can break even or be a small loser, you are a great investment for live and will kill the games.

You might look into it. Unfortunately there just is not much worth playing but I would guess you could at least get staking for the last Sunday of the month type tourney. As long as the tourney has a good draw, is a good value, and has a decent structure, allowing for a skilled player to gain from his edge, it's a good tournament IMO.

gl

Ehhh, the 3-5 and 5-5 NL live games are not that good outside of major tournament days. Are you getting consistently very good table draws, and if so, care to share some of that luck with me?

I mean, the games are definitely beatable, but when you factor in the ridiculous rake, rate of hands being dealt, and the fact that the games aren't THAT good (equivalent to NL50 online most of the time IMO), it's not all that great - especially if you have to travel a fair distance to play.

^^ I have to admit I didn't play many weekdays.

I did however play a few sessions at sno and the game quality (which was even better than the muck) was great and they were not hosting the big series of tournaments.

I also talked to some live regs and they said the games at sno are always good, and added a few tales of notorious whales that will not fold etc. This is the Eastside we are talking about guys, lots of money out there. Anyone trying to grind north Seattle should really consider driving the extra amount.

FWIW only way back in the day were the games known as good in North Seattle and that was limit and when were the only yellow chip games. The Hideaway owned. I can't say I've played much up there, if at all, since the boom but from what I've heard those days and games are long gone there.

1. Go play at sno
2. thank me
3. profit???

Hm, never been to Sno actually. Heard they were giving away like $12/hr in cash-equivalent comps on Friday mornings when they first opened, though! Should have just showed up at 8 AM and never left.

Muck games aren't very good IMO, aside from the dead 30-60 O8 game that used to run. (Man, that game was good.)

Grinding North Seattle, bleh. Games are actually dead there from what I've seen.

Yeah, back when it was all limit up there, I played a ton. I came after the Hideaway was closed, so I didn't get here for that action (moved here 5 years ago), but Parker's was running 4 tables of 9-18 consistently with a huge wait list and awesome games. Later when they played 10-20 HORSE, it was even better.

Remember Goldie's 10/20 $2 rake game? It was pretty good too, though ultimately it failed to get traffic away from Parker's.

I'll check out Sno sometime. Do they run PLO ever?

Nice man, good luck. I can't emphasize it enough, just trust me that you need to play there if you are anywhere near competent in poker, and even that's debatable (I'd stake some losing online players fwiw).

Another thing to note is that you can buy in for $100 into a 2-5 nl (they run 2-5, not 3-5) so if you had to, you can short stack. Even that would be profitable, IMO. TBH though you'd want to get away from that asap as the real money is made with a deeper stack as that's where the most mistakes are made and it was not uncommon for people to throw in 100+BB's with tptk or tp medium kicker or non nut draws..

Because of that, combined with all the limping pre, set mining is V profitable in these games (and easy to do b/c of the limping) but even just a solid tag style with a little more emphasis on being nitty will pay off. The moneys there, you just have to have the hand to win it.

gl

EDIT: Not sure about PLO and would guess not. You can call them though. Holy moly PLO would be sick though

Dare I ask what a bubble tournament is?