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03-16-2015 , 06:06 PM
Hello,

My name is John and I used to live near Ft Lewis and I'm wondering if anyone remembers me. I played primarily at chips/palace in Lakewood and when I got off active duty I played the 8/16 game there usually as soon as the game started till around 3-6 at night.

I havnt played in a long time and I love now on he east coast, anyway I'll get to the point I loved playing there and felt like I learned a lot and I always thought of myself as a break even/ small winner. I was able to cover my bills for a few months before I started college after I got out. What did you think of my game? What did you perceive to be my strengths and weaknesses? What about my game would you change if you could? This is all of course if anyone remembers me, in case you kind of do but arnt sure I normally wore a zip up hoodie and wore my paddys pub one a lot and my wife would come by and watch a lot as well but never play. I also brought some army friends with me as well.

Hopefully someone remembers and can help I ask cause I'm considering playing again as a small income boost since my current job allows the opportunity to do so. There are some good 8/16 horse games and 20-40 games as well out here.

Any advice would be appreciated and I tend to travel back to WA every couple months for work so I'll stop in more and play time allowing.

Good luck in all your games and thanks for any help.

...finally made an account on here been a lurker for years.
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03-17-2015 , 01:31 AM
^ If your not crushing 8/16... there could be a long way to go.
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03-17-2015 , 05:43 AM
Lols. I would lay large odds that nobody could legitimately answer those questions. Some dude use to wear a hoodie in a regular game, share your player notes on him.
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03-17-2015 , 09:56 AM
Obv it's a long shot that anyone does remember me. I know my description of me was pretty bad but oh well. I always wanted to play more but never did. If you somehow do remember cool if not please berate my stupid question.
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03-17-2015 , 10:00 AM
On a different topic, has there been anywhere that has been able to get a horse game going anywhere in the state? Or anyone actually willing to try to get push to get a consistent game going?
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03-17-2015 , 10:35 AM
hideaway has horse on Saturdays I think
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03-17-2015 , 10:57 AM
Confirmed. 6pm. Call ahead to get a seat.
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03-17-2015 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jondeath
Thanks AKQJ10,

I have been searching the forums...the information is too spread out. I have looked on Poker Atlas, but the information on that site is never correct.

Can a local mixed game player please provide me with a short list of where I can find "non hold 'em) poker games each day of the week in and around the seattle area?

I'm sure this summary would help everyone.

JD
jondeath:

No. Efforts to consolidate this information on an editable page, whether onsite or offsite, have been deemed unacceptable. Perhaps you are supposed to use "Search This Thread". Perhaps you will find something relevant.

Good luck at the tables, everyone.
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03-17-2015 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jondeath
Thanks AKQJ10,

I have been searching the forums...the information is too spread out. I have looked on Poker Atlas, but the information on that site is never correct.

Can a local mixed game player please provide me with a short list of where I can find "non hold 'em) poker games each day of the week in and around the seattle area?

I'm sure this summary would help everyone.

JD
Try this:
1- google.com
2- enter search terms - seattle poker schedule
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03-17-2015 , 07:36 PM
15/30 OE was still going from Monday when I left earlier today..
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03-17-2015 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by J33W
On a different topic, has there been anywhere that has been able to get a horse game going anywhere in the state? Or anyone actually willing to try to get push to get a consistent game going?
Clearwater casino 10/20 Horse. It runs on Saturday if I remember correctly, but call and find out for sure.
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03-17-2015 , 08:31 PM
Thanks for the deets!!
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03-18-2015 , 09:13 PM
Anyone know what time the Spring Classic tournaments this weekend start at? Is it 10AM or 12PM, I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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03-19-2015 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bballstar20
Anyone know what time the Spring Classic tournaments this weekend start at? Is it 10AM or 12PM, I can't seem to find it anywhere.
they all start at 10am. Info is on their calendar : http://muckleshootcasino.com/images/...5-CALENDAR.pdf
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03-20-2015 , 01:33 AM
Playing tomorrow's 300$ at the Muckleshoot, gl to anyone else entered.
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03-20-2015 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Me too. As I mentioned upthread, word on the street (OK, at the Hideaway) is that the Lil's 20/40 is rife with collusion hence a really really tough game to beat. I'm starting to play it more, and often I find it pretty soft for midstakes.

I may just be bad at observing this, but I've never seen anything that looked like effective collusion. I've seen people who know each other get into raising wars. However, it seems like this often happens preflop; often happens heads up; they never get caught with implausible hands; etc. Aggressive play creates a lot of "implicit collusion."

All that to say, I believe zac that collusion happened, but I'd like to get better at identifying it versus the wanton aggression that people think is collusion.
My name is spanky, and many of you have known me over the years from Tulalip as well as Snoqualmie before they screwed that room up. I am the new card room manager at Lil's and can tell you that there is not collusion going on in the 20 game. The problem is we have a lot of players that come 5-7 days a week and it's like family time at the table. because they play so much together it may give the impression that they collusion is going on. As far as the lack of English going on, that has stopped all together. I will tell you that the new owner is very proactive towards poker and is there all the time. He has spent a ton of money making sure this is the best room in the state to play. The minute you sit down in a game you can get an $8.00 comp, and then another in 4hrs. As far as the floor, these guys work hard to keep this room running as maximum capacity. These have to be some of the softest games I've seen in the last 20yrs here. The online board is updated every 20mins. so I can tell you it is accurate. Even the food has improved tremendously. Come in during the high hand promo's and you'll find 7-8 games going on Tuesdays and Thursdays. There have been a lot of problems there over the years but we are improving a lot over what has gone on in the past. Sundays and Mondays are a big hit with the Diamond dash, we've paid out a couple of str flushes as well as a royal on Monday for $18,500. And if your in a 4-8 game, I'm liable to stop by and throw a free food coin in the pot.
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03-20-2015 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ReasonableGuy
Zac, thanks for taking the time to write this up. I wouldn't be surprised if there were people working together in this fashion at Lil's. Without violating forum rules about naming players, can you give some hints? They weren't two white guys were they? (You can PM me if you want too.)

Also, Later at Lil's...
Some dude got jumped and beat down by three other guys in the Lil's parking lot this morning around 2:00 a.m. Got bloodied up quite a bit. Of course after a cursory wipe down in the restroom he wanted to sit down and play some more poker! Other players were understandably reluctant to play with the still-blood-dripping victim. Not sure what ended up happening since I left around that time.
The guy that got beat up came from Iron horse and so did his beaters. They had got pissed off and followed him form there. he knew where they came from but not they're names. He wasn't beat up up not dripping blood!
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03-20-2015 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Thanks for the explanation. Yeah, I've not seen anything like that although it doesn't surprise me.

It seems like skilled colluders would want to hide what they're up to, not flip up hands and call attention to themselves. I am curious if they see how super exploitable it is in multiway pots though. You can play all your good top pair or better passively by just calling along. Especially play IO hands like small pairs that can flop huge and take lots of money from them.

Would they stop this if you were in a multiway pot calling along? But I'm confused: "So when you played heads up against them..." In other words, three-handed? I take that to mean three-handed, they stopped reraising because they knew you probably had something.

(I tend to discount the "playing against the better of the two hands" effect because hands that want to continue on are usually self-selected. Of course it could matter if e.g. you had a flush draw, one had a set, the other had an overpair--IOW, a second-best hand that would pay off if it didn't know it was behind. I'm not sure if that makes up for the EV they're giving up in multiway pots when someone else has the best hand, though.)

I agree it's not in the long term interest of the game even if it with some adjustment it could probably make you money. I think in your shoes I'd go straight to the floor after the second hand, not try to reason with them. Glad you got one to leave. Do you think that solved the problem for the moment? Do you think exposing him will have a longer term effect?

Does this happen more in the 8 than in the 20?
If you don't ell the floor they will never know it's going on.
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03-20-2015 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sti1gar
I haven't played in the nightlies yet at Muckleshoot, due to traffic etc.. I only try to get down there during the day or on weekends.

Silver Dollar, are you talking about the one in Renton? I've only played at the one in Mill Creek.

For the morning weekday tournaments I haven't seen much difference in traffic based on casino size.

The Sunday $60 at Caribbean gets about 40-50 runners and the $60 at Tulalip about the same most Sundays.

For the dailies I would just try to find something that's close to where you live, but keep an eye on Muckleshoot/Tulalip ( I use the Bravo live poker app) They run bigger tourneys on specific weekend days every month.
the $70 Sunday at Lil's is drawing 65+ since they changed it to a bounty tourney.
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03-20-2015 , 12:25 PM
I have a collusion story to share as well.

Big whale at the table was running good and hit a few big hands and is away from the table.

Player A says to player B: "hey, remember that hand earlier where Whale had AA? I was trying to tell you that I was folding so you can call him."

Player B: "Ya, what about it?"

A: "I was holding my cards out and trying to tell you that I was folding."

And it went on about the specifics of how they were doing it.

Sure this was between two strangers that are really bad at poker, but you would think that dealer would say something or call the floor? Nah, just part of the game.

Floor was called later on an unrelated ruling and this incident was brought up, in which he just shrugged and said that it wasn't collusion, just bad etiquette.
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03-20-2015 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dadz3
My name is spanky, and many of you have known me over the years from Tulalip as well as Snoqualmie before they screwed that room up. I am the new card room manager at Lil's and can tell you that there is not collusion going on in the 20 game. The problem is we have a lot of players that come 5-7 days a week and it's like family time at the table. because they play so much together it may give the impression that they collusion is going on. As far as the lack of English going on, that has stopped all together. I will tell you that the new owner is very proactive towards poker and is there all the time. He has spent a ton of money making sure this is the best room in the state to play. The minute you sit down in a game you can get an $8.00 comp, and then another in 4hrs. As far as the floor, these guys work hard to keep this room running as maximum capacity. These have to be some of the softest games I've seen in the last 20yrs here. The online board is updated every 20mins. so I can tell you it is accurate. Even the food has improved tremendously. Come in during the high hand promo's and you'll find 7-8 games going on Tuesdays and Thursdays. There have been a lot of problems there over the years but we are improving a lot over what has gone on in the past. Sundays and Mondays are a big hit with the Diamond dash, we've paid out a couple of str flushes as well as a royal on Monday for $18,500. And if your in a 4-8 game, I'm liable to stop by and throw a free food coin in the pot.
Spanky, it is great reading your post. You are missed at the Tulalip.

You know me. I played about 40 Tulalip Saturday morning tournaments for ten years running. Was I a "regular? Think so since I consistently logged hours, playing just weekends, to be ranked in the top 50 or 60 monthly or quarterly. I always qualified for the no extinct Tulalip free-rolls for regulars.

Now I no longer play the Tulalip. The great monthly Saturday tournament you help build is replaced with a $30 ramjet. The Tulalip logic could be sound from a business prospective. But it is not for me. My bigger beef is that I the weekend cash player get a royal screw-job with the Tulalip PSJ. There are no payouts except for the rare bad-beat and royals. The regulars who can play weekdays enjoy rich high-hand PSJs at the expense of the regular.

I do the math and track earnings and hours. This matters.

Best of success Spanky.

The best of success to you Spanky. Wish you never left.
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03-20-2015 , 04:36 PM
PS Spanky. Hope to take you up on the Lil's free food offer.
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03-20-2015 , 05:25 PM
The State of Washington Tribal monopoly on $101 to $500 poker wagers needs to change. I say make it inclusive, allow the same spread at the other poker establishments.

The Tribes hold a monopoly while, at the same time, are reducing their poker footprint and commitment to poker. Examples are the poker room contraction at Snoqualmie and the recent closing of other State tribal poker rooms. The big contraction will come this summer with the significant reduction of poker tables at Tulalip. Such decisions are and should remain the Tribes prerogative. It is the Tribes business and their money. But, at the same time, allow other establishments to satisfy a market demand. Choice and competition are good. Even in poker.
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03-20-2015 , 08:10 PM
Played the $300 today

Was a pleasure to play in.


Busted approx. 85/265

Blew through an above average stack in about one round. Good times. Definitely need to work on my discipline and scale back my double barrel bluffs.
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03-20-2015 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperFinn
Spanky, it is great reading your post. You are missed at the Tulalip.

You know me. I played about 40 Tulalip Saturday morning tournaments PER YEAR for ten years running. Was I a "regular"? Think so since I consistently logged hours, playing just weekends, to be ranked in the top 50 or 60 monthly or quarterly. I always qualified for the now extinct Tulalip free-rolls for regulars.

Now I no longer play the Tulalip. The great monthly Saturday tournament you help build is replaced with a $30 ramjet. The Tulalip logic could be sound from a business prospective. But it is not for me. My bigger beef is that I the weekend cash player get a royal screw-job with the Tulalip PSJ. There are no payouts except for the rare bad-beat and royals. The regulars who can play weekdays enjoy rich high-hand PSJs at the expense of the weekend player like me.

I do the math and track earnings and hours. This matters.

The best of success to you Spanky. Wish you never left.
Posting at work is always a problem for me....!!!! Corrections in BOLD.
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