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01-01-2015 , 12:48 PM
Sick brag. And they do host larger tournies. Just not every month like Tulalip.
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01-01-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperFinn
No doubt this is the logic. As for me, a Saturday Tulalip regular for many years, I don't enjoy $20 tournaments. My Saturday Tulalip routine, play the Saturday 11am tournament and afterwards play 1/3 or 3/5, is history.

Looking for an tournament option for Saturday...advice is welcome.
So you used to regularly play the Sat donkament. But now that the buy-in has gone down and the guarantee has gone up you no longer will? Alright then.
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01-01-2015 , 12:59 PM
What makes you think that the guarantee went up?
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01-01-2015 , 03:17 PM
Because the "Guarantee" is brand new. All the dailies previous strictly had money added. Ranging from 500-1K.
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01-01-2015 , 05:16 PM
http://www.tulalipresortcasino.com/G...lication%2Fpdf

New calendar; $25 buyin (plus 5 for dealers), 2500 GTD.
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01-05-2015 , 02:49 AM
I also see on the calendar that Tulalip has a "No Chop/Money at the Top" $330 NLHE tourney on Sunday, January 25th. First place gets half the prize pool, and the remainder of the top 10% split the rest. That should certainly change the final table dynamic.
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01-07-2015 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fatboy8
Wow. The rumor is early this season. It usually comes out at spring time every year.
Have we given up on the Snoqualimie expanding the poker room...hah
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01-08-2015 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
Angel of the Winds has a $40 Hold'em (with breakfast) at 10 and $35 LO8 at 12:30 on Saturdays. And cheap gas.
Omaha is $40 also. We had 50 runners last week. $3-6 with a kill also gets going as players bust out
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01-14-2015 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bentaylor1988
Went to Muckelshoot for the first time Monday and really enjoyed it. Played 3-5NL and then played a $115 tourney (chopped 3 ways won $990). They had 59 runners in the tourney and multiple limit and no limit games going on all afternoon and night. They have such a huge tourney room I don't know why they don't try and host some larger field tournies. If they hosted the tourney that tulalip hosted on Sunday there wouldn't have been nearly the same problem in regards to having way to many alternates
How many tables of the 3-5nl spread games did they have going? It's been a few years since I've been down there
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01-14-2015 , 05:28 PM
I was there Friday night and I want to say there was at least 4 3-5 games going (one was must move). A lot more Omaha getting played down there these days too. Might have to sharpen up my 0/8 game and give it a try.
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01-15-2015 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BabyStiffArm
How many tables of the 3-5nl spread games did they have going? It's been a few years since I've been down there
I will play the Muck instead of the Tulalip this weekend. I am tired of what is in essence an increase of $2 in the rake at the Tulalip per hand. Two bucks of player funded promotions that disappear down the slot for which there is ZERO payout during the times I play. And I play about 16 hours each and every weekend at the Tulalip.

THIS IS BS.
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01-15-2015 , 01:53 PM
So Muck has promotions on weekends? It doesn't.

Does Snoqualmie have promotions on weekends? It doesn't, unless you count the godforsaken bingo board, in which you probably get 50 cents in equity if you're running good.

Does anyone have promotions on weekends? I don't think so.

In other words, you are protesting Tulalip for doing the same thing as everyone else by going out of your way to support another casino that doesn't offer more?
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01-15-2015 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaUlater
So Muck has promotions on weekends? It doesn't.

Does Snoqualmie have promotions on weekends? It doesn't, unless you count the godforsaken bingo board, in which you probably get 50 cents in equity if you're running good.

Does anyone have promotions on weekends? I don't think so.

In other words, you are protesting Tulalip for doing the same thing as everyone else by going out of your way to support another casino that doesn't offer more?
The Muck has no promotions for us weekend players?

Per the Muckleshoot web-site and Bravo Poker, Muck weekend and weeknight cash promotions for Holdem (excludes the Omaha promotions):

BAD BEAT: Win $10,000 or more with the Texas Hold'em Bad Beat! The qualifier is Aces Full of Kings beaten by a better hand. The pot starts at $10,000 and increases $250 daily until the jackpot is hit! As of 1/13/15 the prize pool is $42,000

HIGH HANDS - hourly Friday 6PM till Monday 12am, with 1-3 games $100, 4-6 games $150, 7-9 games $200, 10-12 games $250, 13-15 games $300, 16-18 games $350, 19-21 games $400

ROYAL FLUSH - $500 plus a jacket

Every 3rd Sunday of the the Month - $200 high hands every 30 minutes, 12 noon to midnight.

SUPER SUNDAY - 1st Sunday of each month, $500 high hands every 30 minutes
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01-15-2015 , 04:35 PM
We can quibble about the details, but I think it's true that most rooms pay out more from their PSJ than they take in on some days, and pay out less than they take in on other days. This effectively creates a situation where the players on the latter days subsidize the PSJ for the former days.

A smart player should probably do enough math to figure out which days are which at their chosen rooms, then decide how heavily they want to weight those results in their decision-making about where to play on a given day.
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01-15-2015 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ReasonableGuy
We can quibble about the details, but I think it's true that most rooms pay out more from their PSJ than they take in on some days, and pay out less than they take in on other days. This effectively creates a situation where the players on the latter days subsidize the PSJ for the former days.

A smart player should probably do enough math to figure out which days are which at their chosen rooms, then decide how heavily they want to weight those results in their decision-making about where to play on a given day.
Quibble? It is black and white. The Muck offers weekend promotions. So did the Tulalip until recently.

Regarding PSJ- my preference is none, like most Vegas poker rooms. I take issue with taking a PSJ 'rake' and offer ZERO in return. Nothing. IMO Tulalip poker caters to the minority - the everyday regulars, which is where the PSJ monies flow. My work schedule does not allow for weekday week-night playing (as much as I would love to).

Last edited by SuperFinn; 01-15-2015 at 05:12 PM.
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01-15-2015 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ReasonableGuy
We can quibble about the details, but I think it's true that most rooms pay out more from their PSJ than they take in on some days, and pay out less than they take in on other days. This effectively creates a situation where the players on the latter days subsidize the PSJ for the former days.

A smart player should probably do enough math to figure out which days are which at their chosen rooms, then decide how heavily they want to weight those results in their decision-making about where to play on a given day.
Very reasonable.
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01-21-2015 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Loopshot1
Bravo Poker said there was a "full" 50-100 O/8 game going at Muckleshoot last(Saturday) night. Can anyone confirm that first hand?
I play in this game everytime it goes and its going to start running more consistently on Fridays starting around 1-2 pm. Last week we also played Stud8 on dealer rotation.
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01-21-2015 , 03:36 AM
Nice. $5 antes and $15 bring in?
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01-21-2015 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Loopshot1
Nice. $5 antes and $15 bring in?
In an Omaha high-low game??
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01-21-2015 , 04:21 AM
Yeah, if the dealer accidentally exposes one of your four cards, it plays as your upcard and you have to bring in.

No, seriously, read the post two above yours. And $5 and $15 sounds slightly on the low side for a game that big; I'd expect closer to 20% and 30-35% of the small bet, respectively, so $10 and maybe $20 ($10 and $15 would be ok too).

See here for 2005 Foxwoods structures: http://weighingtheodds.blogspot.com/...card-stud.html
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01-21-2015 , 04:35 AM
Oops, I missed the part about Stud 8 rounds sometimes...

I would also expect $10 antes in a 50/100 stud game. And $20 or $25 bringin, depending on if they were paying mostly with $10 or $25 chips.
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01-21-2015 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Oops, I missed the part about Stud 8 rounds sometimes...

I would also expect $10 antes in a 50/100 stud game. And $20 or $25 bringin, depending on if they were paying mostly with $10 or $25 chips.
$15 ante and $25 bringin or $50 to complete. Playing $25 chips. We're playing Friday starting at 1 pm. The game has gone until 8 am last 3 sessions.
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01-21-2015 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Invert
$25 bringin
LOL. They don't really have any clue about 7-stud either, do they? The Hideaway $6/12 is equally over-brought-in at $3. (It plays in $2 chips so they actually make even less sense.)

The bring-in in 7-stud should be somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of a small bet. It's not a small blind. It should be small enough that a good player will often not want to defend against an ante steal.

Of course in the Hideaway/Muckleshoot structure, you should defend your BI much more loosely than would be recommended in any sort of stud-8 video or book. How loosely are you defending, Invert? I'd probably defend something like (K6)2 where the king is live and an upcard to the board and hearts are live, depending on upcards of course.
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01-21-2015 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
LOL. They don't really have any clue about 7-stud either, do they? The Hideaway $6/12 is equally over-brought-in at $3. (It plays in $2 chips so they actually make even less sense.)

The bring-in in 7-stud should be somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of a small bet. It's not a small blind. It should be small enough that a good player will often not want to defend against an ante steal.

Of course in the Hideaway/Muckleshoot structure, you should defend your BI much more loosely than would be recommended in any sort of stud-8 video or book. How loosely are you defending, Invert? I'd probably defend something like (K6)2 where the king is live and an upcard to the board and hearts are live, depending on upcards of course.
We chose the ante and bringin structure to drive action and cause players to defend marginal hands. If we wanted a game catering to tighter players we'd lower the ante and bringin amounts.
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01-21-2015 , 11:47 PM
My remarks aside, I'm delighted to see that we have more stud action here than anywhere outside of Foxwoods, AC, LA, and maybe Vegas during the Series.
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