lol at the gradient in the confirmation email

I will not smoke in the hotel, I can smoke outside

This is going to be fun! The plan is:

- win the O8 tournament
- destroy the locals at the cash game
- splash some cash on the casino floor at craps or ultimate texas hold em if they have it to generate room offers. If they have 6 deck BJ I can try to do some card counting; I use the knockout method

Regarding food, it's eat at the casino or in shelton, which is only 11 mins away. As I'll be probably be getting nicely toasted, best to stay on property.

Water’s Edge Cafe open till 2am
is the ideal place to take a break and refuel before embarking on your next adventure. There’s something to satisfy every palate with your pick from freshly prepared salads, delicious hot and cold sandwiches, hearty soups, tasty sides, and an assortment of beverages

pizza Friday & Saturday | 12PM-9PM


legends cheesesteaks down for that

salish grill $25 fish and chips ouch



island grill has really pricy oysters, $5 each? holy crap. But a $20 fish and chips? what?

I use the knockout method

What is the blackjack knockout method?

An unbalanced system where the running count starts higher than 0 based on the number of decks (like 24 for a 6 deck shoe). It includes 7's as a +1 count.

It is easier to implement because you use the running count directly not the true count. So you avoid estimating remaining decks and that conversion of RC to TC.

LITTLE CREEK CASINO REPORT 10/2025

Poker room is on the main floor. Small, clean nonsmoking casino. Free pepsi products. Easy to get in and out of. Very clean bathrooms, lots of security roaming about.

$200 O8 tourny had 19 entrants. It was a pretty lame experience. Average age probably 62. Lady next to me had a vpip of like 85%, and somehow always managed to hit her emergency low or random suckout. meanwhile I was card dead. The dynamics of the game really change the 3/4th blind increase. People were chasing and giving the lady chips for no reason that I could tell

Top 3 payout which sucks IMO. Forgot to do the math on the vig. first was like 1600

Turns out the 4/8 O8 runs on sunday, GDI. Floor said it was a spicy game . There was no games running late friday night, sat am had a miserable looking 4/8 hold em.

I think they are mainly a tournament room, which is a shame because the poker room is nicely setup. Being only 20 minutes or so away from Fortune Lacey must be hard to compete with, as I doubt they're drawing many players from f'ing Shelton. Honestly I prefer Fortune Lacey, as they actually staff their pit games during the day and offer top notch foods.

Hotel room was fine. I disliked the showerhead, it was square. Hot tub was not very hot, and had enough foam in it to start a party. They seriously need to invest in a protein skimmer.

Tried a pacific and kumamoto oyster at the bar. The latter was great, clean taste, mildly briny. The pacific was a bit funkier but they gave a couple fun sauces to take the edge off. I'm new to eating oysters

$15 burger was the definition of mediocre casino burg

So poker is a bust, switched to table games.

craps - bj - uth - face up pai gow - 3 card poker. The tables weren't fully staffed; the 3 card poker never ran, for example.

-$50 at UTH, I hate this game now

Switched to face up pai gow on the advice on a youtube video regarding easy, low house edge pit games. Never played this game before. +100 no side bets played. Fun people to play with, and it's slow-paced. I played $20/hand, and was the good luck the table needed.

Saturday, no poker worth playing, pai gow wasn't open. I earned 232 tier credits; I estimate I played 10 minutes of UTH $5/hand, and 2 hours of pai gow at $20/hand... which was like 11 hands. People just love to slow roll their cards

From my limited research, you need 2500TC to qualify for anything useful.

Went to check out Fortune Casino Lacey. It's oddly located. Two 1/3 games going. $100 hh (no qualifier per hour), and apparently food as good as Fortune Renton.

However, you can drive 15 minutes or whatever north to Aces, which has a $250 hh/half hour. Infinitely worse food, but its "free."

Won $20 playing pai gow again, tipped the dealer a redbird and bounced.

Went to aces lakewood where a fun thing happened. In the O8 game I had A3TT on the button and called out "chop block" and raised. BB called. Flop was TTx lol. I gave the BB his 6 bucks back and took the hh for another +75. Game died at like 6pm, after running all night Friday apparently

overall result gambling -70ish

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The tribal gas station also sells liquor, which is unusual. They also offer all your fried gas station favorites. Their chicken tendies were kind of pricy, $9 for two + a couple of sides.

The fry guy was sweaty and delivering the goods, but was falling behind because as of 11am maybe 1/2 of the counter was stocked. Couldn't get the combo due to lack of sides.

They also offer very expensive smoked salmon and oyster products.

Fun trip reports, Steve. They must have moved the poker room. I remember it being on the 2nd floor. It's downstairs now?

Thanks GD!

Aye, on the main floor real close to the main entrances, so great exposure. The old way to the second floor doesn't exist anymore, there's a sports bar there now.

The clerk who printed my players card noted my last interaction was in 2014.

ALERT:

Keep an eagle eye on your bets in the pit. In the 2-3 hours I played the dealers f'd up three times. One was not paying out a bonus, others were not reading hands properly.

Sometimes this can be in your favor, but not this time. When we closed out the casino Friday night the dealer was almost asleep at the table.

true for all seattle casinos in my experience, catch the mistakes against you, be silent as they do it in your favor

last week bought in for $200 and was paid $300 in chips, right in front of the pit boss


a few months ago i had a dealer forget that ace was a soft 11 and repeatedly thought hands like A57 were busts - somehow she only managed to do this with her own cards and not with players cards

both instances are amazing lol

Little Creek 4th and 5th Saturday tournaments only ones worth playing in Puget Sound, but that drive from Seattle lmao empty your bladder before you depart.

Also wood fired pizza is ++

Flopped a steel wheel for the first time in my life LOL

And while I was out on a break someone got a royal

6/12 O8 game lasted about 12 hours. There was a list for a while; I don't understand how people put themselves on a list to play this game when they sit down with $60

There were two people that did this. #1 rebot $100 and lost it all. #2 lost it all and left

Seattle to little creek is 1hr 15 mins on weekend AM, not the worst. Pizza slices were like $5 so I passed, they did look decent.

LC really needs to implement a poker room rate

1/3 travelers who wear blazers to the cardroom, do you wear a corny jacket because that’s what people do in the distinguished UK? Or you just fancy yourself a gentleman who dresses like no one else around?
Do you report your poker winnings as federal taxable income? Obviously not right. You don’t have a job and don’t pay taxes and are on some sort of visa? Or you’re a citizen and do pay your taxes?
If someone were to ring my local 1/3 games and be on a visa and not pay their taxes, I would happily report them to ICE online.

There is no edge in limit especially after rake.

In no-limit you can do things like use position, determine your opponents range then bluff them to win big pots, over bet or get it all in over streets when you know you have the best hand, and raise enough to limit the field down to say one player rather than 3+ way where equities run close with any cards. There is no skill in limit other than some folding spots for like one bet, some small min-raise for value spots for again like one bet where it’s iffy if just calling down is -ev or not. Love the exciting reports and hotel updates but talking **** about other players losing at limit is dumb.

i am assuming this is directed at me

this is the general idea - and fact it bothers you and you find it so strange tells more about you and the locales you inhabit than it does about me as it's a pretty normal thing




but the main thing is pockets that stay upright so your bankroll is secure as you play - rather wear a blazer than have a fanny pack strapped across my chest

and lol at thinking that A) i'm not american and B) that if i were a euro 1/3 grinder from moldova that I'd choose washington state, where poker dies, as a travel destination

As someone who used to care about fashion, but who is a fan of history, the fact that blazers have been extinct as a mens wear item for probably 30+ years, is interesting.

But exist in thrift stores, and have utility:

A blazer is a distinct type of lightweight sports jacket, traditionally made of navy or striped wool or linen. It is typically characterised by metal buttons on the front and sleeves. In terms of formality within Western dress codes, a blazer has a dressier appearance than other sports jackets, yet is seen as less formal than a suit jacket.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blazer

A modern blazer lol at the price:




reagarding this post:

"If someone were to ring my local 1/3 games and be on a visa and not pay their taxes, I would happily report them to ICE online."

How would you know any this information? I actually LOL. This has to be parody

I emailed little creek about poker room rates. I doubt they'll reply

I don't recall talking ****about people losing money. I'm literally reporting what happens at the table.

Dude, I've played thousands of hours of NL. wTF are you typing at me at. I play omaha to have fun.

"There is no edge in limit especially after rake. " = making me think you're actually ret**d*d. Sure this is true at 4/8, but when you get higher (I think the threshold was easily 8/16), but 6/12 + 10/20 kill can obliterate the rake handily. "There is no skill in limit" you are out of your **ing mind

Like when I scooped two kill pots in a row for $400+. What I tipped negated the rake

anyways thanks for enjoying my posts

nice wiki link

ah, i see i've been talking about sports coats - haven't worn anything with metal buttons since high school

You should explain this to the many players who made a living at poker before the poker boom. You know, when pretty much all cash games were limit. It isn't that hard to have a huge edge in limit games. You simply lack the knowledge to understand why that can be. Please try to learn more about something before you post about it. Thanks.

"this is absolutely the first time we got a submission [from kirkland]"

bart's analysis is spot-on from a gto perspective, but he is unfamiliar with the local dynamic. there is still something to learn here.

My apologies if I was a bit aggressive in my prior post.

Interesting to hear people talking about our little poker rooms. My ADD kicked in once they started talking about the turn.

Paraphrasing: "...So you had two overcards and a nut flush draw on the flop. Ace comes on the turn, that... improves your hand, does it not?"

OP did mention tech money, but it doesn't explain how much money is splashing around. Though the immediate area around caribbean looks crappy, drive 5 minutes in any directions and the houses start going in the 1-2 mil range, easy. $300 ain't crap to these people.

Though there are some condos in the area that seem affordable, the but HOA fees are lol.

Last time I was at caribbean, a whale type guy who used to play at fortune easily donked off 1000s that night at the 1/3 game. I recognized him because he gained an easy 200+ lbs during the demic.

For Aces Lakewood, the crowd is diverse (exception: the O8 game), military, and a fair amount of kids under 21, retired people. I think the 3/5 game might be pretty good, one of the whales from that game was on a 1/3 table just totally d*cking around

5 3/5 tables at Fortune, packed list on a non-promo friday night.

Odd that the 1/3 and 3/5 have the same amount of tables. Is that normal there nowadays?

Maybe perhaps in the prehistoric area some players would fold the river to bluffs? with middle pair getting 17-1 because they didn’t know better or play hands pre like J7 and you’d outkick their top pair, or maybe the winners then were just on the right side of variance over the course of several years, like the thousands of slot and blackjack and video poker gamblers who even file taxes professionally for years until their variance evens out. Ah yes that’s what it is. You of course mention zero examples of a winning strategy in limit other than telling me to believe people can win “because they did.” Thanks for getting upset though. At least I win in this circle of anger by getting a main event champ angry.

Sounds like you are not a visa traveler from Malta and pay taxes so great, my huge bad. Definitely paying too much attention to your posts itÂ’s true. Seattle poker is def not where poker goes to die which is why IÂ’m jealous.

Yes as brought up prior by the well dressed bankroll protector, rake is something like $9 = $6 + 3 a hand at Fortune and when there is no promo during weekend evening hours, playing single raised pots at 1/3 is ridiculous with $9 taken on the flop. There has been good 3/5 action for a while there during evenings with 4-5 tables common.

For some reason a couple of players at the 1/3 nl are taking the 67 meme seriously

One guy called a four way all in for 105 or so on a A4x flop. Two ppl flopped sets, he rr'd a straight

Lady called a $60 pre flop all in with 67o.

Flopped a gutshot, got all in when the straight hit but the flush also hit

Gentleman won with J8c. He paid $60 to see the flop with those cards

2pm Saturday

I'm sorry you suck at limit and can't beat the game. But that doesn't mean the same is true for everybody else. Maybe improve your game rather than whining like a baby

There are still limit holdem pros (ahem).

The fact that some people think it's bingo keeps the games good. And a good number of players still play J7.
I even play it occasionally myself (suited, of course). Come play bingo with me at Fortune this week!

Hey hows it going.

new to the scene and looking around WA for NLH games. it looks like theres NLH at Aces Poker in mountlake Terrace (closest one to me compared to the others)

im seeing mixed (mostly leaning towards negative though) reviews about this place. is this place worth playing at? how are the games here?