They have 3-20 spread played with white chips and 1/3 played with red chips.

If you have bad eye sight and need to be in seat 5. Tell the floor when requesting your seat. They should be able to help you out if possible.


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No one?

no, that was a typo. i meant see #5

i don't know all the rules either. just show your hand if you think you might have a high hand.

there should be a list on the big screen. NL cash games don't exist here.

That is technically correct. Washington law only allows a $300 max bet in non tribal rooms. So the big NL games are actually 3-300 or 5-300 spread limit.

But for lower stakes players they play close to NL. (not very many $300 bets)

Just poking my head back in here to see what's up with the Hideaway. It was clear to everyone that the player volume just wasn't enough to support it as a thriving business (at least not for a REALLY long time), only as a sort of charity/labor of love. But I thought this iteration was actually a labor of love. Everything has its limits so if it just wasn't financially viable even beyond an acceptable level of money-losing then so be it, but I really had hoped it would hang around longer.

Does anyone have any explicit information on how the Red Dragon Casino is on Highway 99?

I came across a post on reddit where someone says

All close to truth, but it's like that almost everywhere.

Yes seems about right. Esp the door and security if you end up in the overflow lot

Not a reason to not play tho if you are in the area and interested. They still get 10+ tables running regularly


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Are there any good tournament series to be on the lookout for? I just went to PowWow at Tulalip but curious on others throughout the year.

Also are there any casinos that disallow the button straddle?

Not a lot to choose from in Seattle area:

Jan: PowWow at Tulalip
Spring: Muckleshoot
Fall: Muckleshoot

WildHorse in Pendleton OR runs in April, June/July and November.

Chinook Winds in Lincoln City OR Feb and October.

It has been a few years but looking to head back to the casinos for some spread limit. I used to play regularly at the muckleshoots 3/5. Then got married and had kids! Anyone know anything about the palace in lakewood? Looks like they have a 1/3 on weekends? How is that game? How is the mucks now? Back when I played i often got stuck with a tight table, it took some aggressive moves and a wide range to walk away a winner. What's new there? I live south of muckleshoot and east of the palace. The north games sound like there's action but that's a drive for me. Does the mucks still get saturday night casuals? The palace? Can someone give me a feel of the games?

Spend an extra 15 minutes in the car and go to Fortune.

Palace has 15/30 LHE on Fridays and Saturdays at 4 PM. 1/3/5 PLO with $1k Max buy on Wednesdays at 6 PM. 8/16 LHE runs every day.

They have a 1/3 spread game on Saturdays but it seems like it is drying up. I don’t think it goes every week. I would much rather play 15/30 LHE than 1/3 spread.

Action at Palace is insane. It’s like a time warp to 2007 or so. The PLO game has gotten a bit tougher but there are times when there are 5+ players with literally no clue what they are doing.

Played at Fortune last week for the first time in over a year and saw the rake was up from $3+3 to $4+3. Is that the standard at its competitors (Muck, Red Dragon, Palace) now as well?

How the hell does fortune afford to do all their high hand promotions? Is the +3 pretty much all towards these promos? $500/15 mins is pretty sick.

i played at fortune on satruday, $7/hand is ridiculous, and i couldnt care less about the high hand bs.

does tulalip do this crap too?

It’s $4 to promo and $3 to rake and, yes, Palace does it too. Not sure about Muck. The only cash game I play there is $20/$40 O8 and they only take a rake in that game.

You should care about the promos because they bring all the recs in. I assume most ppl that post here are trying to make money playing poker and promos that populate the games with recs help you make money. In the long run, someone that plays a lot of hours will get a decent ROI on the promo drop. Last year I made $8100 in High Hands and Jackpots. The year before that I made $9100. The year before that I made $5400.

Obviously, I don’t want the promo drop to keep going up (it will), but it’s not nearly as bad as a rake increase.

Id much rather just play poker, but thats the way she goes.


DK is right, people eat up that high hand ****.

Are the NL tables also paying $4 into the promotions at fortune? Seems like the 4/8 and 8/16 LHE tables will have a much greater chance of hitting these short term high hands than the 1/3 "NL" tables, where its harder to play hands to the flop/turn/river, and at least a few less hands dealt per hour.

It’s the same, yes.

3/5 with a $300 max bet is a serious problem when deep... Kind of crazy

Does anyone know the rake and promo drop at the red dragon casino?

4 + 3 I believe.

In fortune news, there's a brand new pallet to cross the ditch with. Wonder how long it'll take to decompose - 3 months?

I will not be trying it. The paradigm shift in such matters over the last 20 years is kinda funny. I would go out of my way to run through that creek, pallet or no pallet. Now, falling down in the water/mud seems terrible.