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Old 06-19-2010, 08:10 PM   #76
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Re: Bethlehem Sands Poker Room Q&A

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I was able to snap one decent pic.
Nice work!

I'm getting pretty excited about checking this room out, even though it's just about as far of a drive as Atlantic City.
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:06 PM   #77
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Im hoping the room is well run too. I live in Staten Island and Sands is about a 50 minute drive compared to AC which is 90 mins or so.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:08 PM   #78
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Re: Bethlehem Sands Poker Room Q&A

Glad to hear some of this news trickling in about the Sands. I'm playing 1/3NL and 2/5NL here in LA, but want to make the pilgrimage back east mid/late July to visit with family and to check out the new room.

Before I book the plane rez, I would really like to hear more info as it becomes available.

Looks like room opens Friday July 16th- my guess is that games should be good right away, but would anyone suggest best plan for an out-of-towner to attack the action?

How soon is soon enough for things to iron themselves out in a new room? Do you think the action will be good right away, then fizzle out? Any thoughts?

If anything just wanted to bump this thread. Where's davey? Any more info my man?
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:14 PM   #79
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Looks like room opens Friday July 16th- my guess is that games should be good right away, but would anyone suggest best plan for an out-of-towner to attack the action?
If the action is bad at the Sands you will have 4 different places you could travel too.

Chester Downs about an Hour.
MS@PD about an Hour and 15.
Mt. Airy about an Hour
Hollywood Park about an Hour and 15.

It remains to be seen which cardroom in North Eastern PA (I know Chester is not North East and the Sands is borderline) is going to have the best action.
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Old 06-22-2010, 03:23 PM   #80
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Looks like room opens Friday July 16th- my guess is that games should be good right away, but would anyone suggest best plan for an out-of-towner to attack the action?
I think they have to do a 48 hour test run which i think there was a post on this tread saying that the games will be limit during that time. I'm guessing that regular games would start Sunday 18th or Monday the 19th?
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Old 06-22-2010, 06:18 PM   #81
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Im hoping the room is well run too. I live in Staten Island and Sands is about a 50 minute drive compared to AC which is 90 mins or so.

No way in hell is that 50 minutes....
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Old 06-22-2010, 06:38 PM   #82
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Agreed. There is no way he is getting to Sands in 50 minutes from Staten Island. Sands is about 70 miles from the Outerbridge. An hour and 15 minutes or so is more realistic.

Philadelphia Park is actually slightly closer, depending on where you are on Staten Island.
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:07 PM   #83
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Im at the outerbridge and I know for sure I can get there in less than an hour. The speed limit is 65 and the cops wont pull you over cruising at 80. I can make it to Allentown in 1hr 20minutes or so.
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:08 PM   #84
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And Philadelphia is 90 minutes away from me
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:49 PM   #85
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Im at the outerbridge and I know for sure I can get there in less than an hour. The speed limit is 65 and the cops wont pull you over cruising at 80. I can make it to Allentown in 1hr 20minutes or so.
New Yorkers always exaggerate times when driving. What street in Staten Island are you coming from?

I would gladly give you 5-1 on any amount of $ that we can escrow that you can't make it in 50 minutes.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:14 PM   #86
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Sands website states that live table action will begin Sunday July 18th
@ 9am! Anybody else gonna be there to kick off the action at 9am?
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:12 AM   #87
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New Yorkers always exaggerate times when driving. What street in Staten Island are you coming from?

I would gladly give you 5-1 on any amount of $ that we can escrow that you can't make it in 50 minutes.
Id say its possible. 1 exit up to 78 and then 78 straight through. I've done Allentown in 1:05 from the meadowlands
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:03 AM   #88
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Took another trip down to the Sands yesterday. No major news to report on the poker room. They upholstered the tables. The tops are green with a black leather rail (no cup holders)
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Old 06-30-2010, 01:32 PM   #89
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Took another trip down to the Sands yesterday. No major news to report on the poker room. They upholstered the tables. The tops are green with a black leather rail (no cup holders)
Takes pictures next time
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Old 06-30-2010, 05:53 PM   #90
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Wasn't going to post them because there isn't much to see, but since you asked....

Pit #1


Pit #2



Pit#2 (showing its proximity to food court/restrooms)

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Old 06-30-2010, 06:19 PM   #91
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Man right in the middle of the floor looks kind cramped, it's gonna be noisy. It's going to be interesting who in the area makes the move first to expand their poker room and become the premier destination.
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:57 PM   #92
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You guys should really check out Wilmington's room and it would cut down on lots of the babbling and speculation here. They have around 30 tables. The biggest game during the week is 2-5 NL. On the weekends they have 5-10 and allegedly 10-20NL. Every table is full on the weekends with 100+ names on the 1-2 and 2-5 NL lists. They have never had a limit game go off higher than 10-20 that i know of. I would assume that this room will be slightly worse with 12 tables. It's going to be VERY hard to appease the lower limit players and have money flow to the mid level games with no bottom feeders. With 12 tables you're going to have to tip the floor people VERY WELL to get at the top of the list for the small 1-2 and 2-5 NL games especially on the weekends.

The room in Wilmington is also surrounded by slot machines.
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Old 07-02-2010, 12:45 AM   #93
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Being the Sands is the closest casino to the NYC/Newark area, I wouldn't be surprised if this were true. There's quite a few big underground games around there.
So, why would they need to drive 45+mins. to a casino to play???
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:37 AM   #94
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You guys should really check out Wilmington's room and it would cut down on lots of the babbling and speculation here. They have around 30 tables. The biggest game during the week is 2-5 NL. On the weekends they have 5-10 and allegedly 10-20NL. Every table is full on the weekends with 100+ names on the 1-2 and 2-5 NL lists. They have never had a limit game go off higher than 10-20 that i know of. I would assume that this room will be slightly worse with 12 tables. It's going to be VERY hard to appease the lower limit players and have money flow to the mid level games with no bottom feeders. With 12 tables you're going to have to tip the floor people VERY WELL to get at the top of the list for the small 1-2 and 2-5 NL games especially on the weekends.

The room in Wilmington is also surrounded by slot machines.
100 name waiting lists? Ummm I highly doubt that. You could drive to another poker room 3+ hours away before you'd even get seated lol.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:27 AM   #95
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100 name waiting lists? Ummm I highly doubt that. You could drive to another poker room 3+ hours away before you'd even get seated lol.

He's talking about Delaware Park. The list for 1-2 was 70 deep on opening weekend. But the room has only been open ~2 weeks, so I don't see that kind of volume lasting. Also, they only have 20 tables.

I'm not sure why he felt compelled to come into this thread and promote DP. While they do have a very nice room, I can literally walk to the Sands, so Sands' poker would really have to suck for me to drive 1.5 hours to DP.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:01 AM   #96
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So, why would they need to drive 45+mins. to a casino to play???
Because sometimes people get sick of the ridonkoulous rake that you see in NYC games (1/3 to $15, 2/5 to $30, or the occasional uncapped rake...)
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Old 07-02-2010, 12:44 PM   #97
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He's talking about Delaware Park. The list for 1-2 was 70 deep on opening weekend. But the room has only been open ~2 weeks, so I don't see that kind of volume lasting. Also, they only have 20 tables.

I'm not sure why he felt compelled to come into this thread and promote DP. While they do have a very nice room, I can literally walk to the Sands, so Sands' poker would really have to suck for me to drive 1.5 hours to DP.
I am not promoting DP at all. The games are way too small for me to consider playing, same with the Sands. However, I am pointing out that with only 12 tables you're certainly going to have lists 50 deep (especially fri-sun) for 1-2 and possibly 2-5 NL and you're going to have a max of 3 tables for each. It's going to be a giant thumb up your ass festival with lots of people who do get seats taking long breaks so as not to lose them.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:12 PM   #98
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I am not promoting DP at all. The games are way too small for me to consider playing, same with the Sands. However, I am pointing out that with only 12 tables you're certainly going to have lists 50 deep (especially fri-sun) for 1-2 and possibly 2-5 NL and you're going to have a max of 3 tables for each. It's going to be a giant thumb up your ass festival with lots of people who do get seats taking long breaks so as not to lose them.
Might have a list of 10 or so on opening weekend. After that prolly open seating.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:55 PM   #99
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Because sometimes people get sick of the ridonkoulous rake that you see in NYC games (1/3 to $15, 2/5 to $30, or the occasional uncapped rake...)
That's funny...there's 3 poker rooms in my town alone. A high, a medium, and a low stakes room. Some are more greedy that others with the rake. But guess what, there's always a full crowd in each one when they're open. And Atlantic City is only 2 hours away.

So basically, if you build it, they will come!
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:49 PM   #100
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He's talking about Delaware Park. The list for 1-2 was 70 deep on opening weekend. But the room has only been open ~2 weeks, so I don't see that kind of volume lasting. Also, they only have 20 tables.

I'm not sure why he felt compelled to come into this thread and promote DP. While they do have a very nice room, I can literally walk to the Sands, so Sands' poker would really have to suck for me to drive 1.5 hours to DP.
I think massive crowds like that in PA can only benefit us. If it gets that busy the casinos will be chomping at the bit to expand their poker rooms and make more money.

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