Its a horrible ruling, dealer should have announced when he sat that rack does not play and dealer should have offered to call a chip runner to color him up so he could put it in his pocket. If it was me I would have refused to pay, the ruling goes against the max buy in which is state regulated.

Was the floor called at all to make a ruling or did the dealer just make the ruling? It seems the first thing the dealer should have done was call the floor, baring that then your friend should have called the floor. This probably would have remedied the situation

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Players are constantly topping off (often times trying to circumvent the max), if chips are on the felt well before the start of the hand and it isn't pointed until the end of the hand, you can't allow the player to at this point claim that he wasn't playing those chips. The dealer(s) made a mistake by not clarifying but so did the player who had the rack on the table.

The player did call the floor and the floor couldn't or wouldn't make a decision so they called shift. And this was shift's ruling. Again, I see people with racks of chips on the rail in many casinos all the time but never heard of such ruling.

Heard the Bbj was hit again and it reset all the way down to 38k or so.

Either they play or they don't. Your friend should have clarified with the dealer when he sat down, or simply colored up and put the rest in his pocket. Yes, I understand he was waiting for a 2/5 seat. Assuming he is experienced enough to sit at 2/5, he should have been experienced enough to know the rule, or know to ask.

Terrible ruling..**** makes no sense..but ur friend shldve lostem for calling an all-in of 580 at a 1-2 in the first place.

"Da chips in my rack are in play" (if I win)....

"Them chips were never in play" (if I lose)....

Perfect ruling.

The chips were never in play , the reason they are in a rack is because they don't play.

April tournament schedule - they added a 5K guarantee every Friday at 11am and still every Monday a splash pot or high hand

Monday Tuesday Thursday tourneys all horrible. Very quick structure and very small fields. Saturday tournament great structure and decent field. Sunday decent tourney too. I was there for a Monday tourney and think they had 32 entrants.

Agree about the Saturday tourney, but disagree about the Tuesday and Thursday tourney. Although somewhat quick, it needs to be considering it starts at 7pm on a weeknight, which is a good starting time for working stiffs like me so that we can play during the week. And a longer structure would mean that it would go to 3 or 4 in the morning, which I definitely would not want. Plus, it's a $100; what do you really want.

PS - playbig, thanks for the monthly calendar again.

Any idea when the Sands website will have the live game report back up?

^^^ This is nonsense! Guys play chips in racks when first sitting, when preparing to leave, when maybe thinking about leaving, when transferred, when table changing etc, for an hour sometimes lol.

If the chips are there on the rail and your friend did not very specifically point out to the dealer that they are not in play, and the dealer did not clearly announce that they are not in play to the table- THEY ARE IN PLAY! Period.

It is ultimately HIS responsibility to get that clarified. The dealer has some responsibility here and should have asked and announced, but he didn't. Therefore it is on your experienced friend here to clarify it. It is definitely on him to clear this up before calling a $580 bet to him. "Um these chips in my rack don't play correct?" Answer from dealer/floor= No -- "I call". Answer from dealer = yes in play -- argue, floor, argue then decide if you wanna call $580.

You can't have guys with chips in a rack claiming they are not in play after losing the hand.

Your friend should have clarified this before calling the bet and getting a ruling first. Otherwise it's angleshoot city. The ruling is 100% correct. It can't go any other way.

Oh and there is no chip runner at Sands so there is zero possibility of this. As I said it is the players responsibilty to tend to his chips. He should be aware of this the minute the dealer doesn't announce anything.

What's up with sands on bravo? Could not pull up games report at all today.

We have Live Straddles !!

(straddle must be placed out prior to the first card being dealt out or it becomes a blind raise)

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Not a big fan of straddles, but just curious, can you straddle anywhere or just utg?

Hope it's from anywhere. Mississippi straddles are the best. Just like Delaware Park. Tons of action then.

UTG only. Min raises must be 2x the straddle.

It actually has been juicing up pots all day. Lots more 3betting and 4betting.

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Had a good time last night playing BIG O for the 2nd time ever. 4 handed mostly. Fun game

It's worth noting that the new rules only allow straddles in Holdem games

so at sands

5k they ask for your card to cash out.

7800 they ask for your social..

is this normal for anyone else? or is it i had 2 over 5k cashouts within a certain amount of time

Can't speak to sands specifically, but 10k total in one 24 hour period will get you a CTR filed. The players card for 5k (less at some casinos) is to internally tracklarge cash outs to see if you hit 10k in one gaming day.

If they ask for your social, I suggest the answer "I prefer not to give it." I don't think they can force you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_...nk_Secrecy_Act

Federal law requires the casino to report to the IRS any transaction, or series of transactions, that total more than $10K in a single business day.

The casino is restricted by federal law from cashing your chips out until you produce a valid, legal ID if the transaction in question would put you over the $10K threshhold (either aggregate cash buy-ins or aggregate cash-outs) for their 24-hour business day.