20/40 has been going? When?

Friday short handed (3-6)
Not so much on Saturday

Does that mean 40/80 is finally dead?

I'm not sure of the process of opening a card room, but I can't imagine GAMBLING ever getting approved in Del Mar or La Mesa. Those areas are not ****ty enough to have an uninvolved citizenry or a city council that isn't super concerned about image to get a card room in (which is what I'm assuming it takes in the 21st century).

There has been talk/rumors of the racetrack trying to add a casino.

This would be interesting. Wouldn't mind having a place a little closer than O11

games would, I assume, be amazing.

I totally forgot about the track, that makes a lot of sense. Interesting enough, I just saw this article from ABC in San Diego about Del Mar and online poker. They want a casino or online room to be able to offer bigger purses to attract the top horses.

Yeah, a racetrack adding a poker room is much more common than open a new one

So the track can add a casino but we can get legal online poker? Ugh

racetrack rep says:
"But we're also realistic and the tribes have compacts with the state to operate those casinos, so we're not naive to think that that is something realistic for us."

AllJackedUp says:
The racetracks are actually part of the problem in blocking online poker in CA.

Oh yeah. I'm not fully aware of everything going on but the politics in trying to get online up and running in CA have been a mess.

This is a decent site I came across about a year ago -- they do a pretty good job of covering California online poker legislation.

http://www.californiaonlinepoker.com/

Thank you.

Usually I just wait to see if anything gets posted in the thread on 2+2 about it.

Has the management at the Pala poker room completely LOST it?

New promotion for LIVE games in December..a side action bet on every hand:

https://www.palacasino.com/poker_pro...ot-poker-spot/

What does everyone think of this promotion?

To me it seems like they are grasping for straws..

Holy Cow is that a bad idea at Pala. If players do it, it will fundamentally change the NLHE game... it will artificially inflate the # of players going for pat hands. Ridiculous.

Seems pretty awful plus it just raises the effective rake since the donks are the only ones who are going to play this dumb ****. More money being funneled from idiots to the casino without good players getting a shot at it.

Ameristar Kansas City has this, I just played there within the past 60 days. I predict it will be short lived- if someone with a brain actually ran the numbers, one finds you are starting way behind the odds-curve. A few guys in the game I was in would put down a white chip occasionally, but it had no real following.

I doubt they wil have this by July, if they still have a room..

disclaimer: I can't say my opinion on this promotion, for reasons some of you know. I can give facts/observations. Let's just say...i see a lot

1. the money that's bet on this promo goes to the jackpot/promo fund, not the house.

2. most of the NLHE players ignore it. The drunks on friday nights play it sometimes, but very rarely. The 3/6 limit players, however, go bat**** crazy over this thing.

3. As for NL, If they put the bet out there, they are loath to fold. like...they REALLY hate to fold it...moreso than usual. This means that dollar they lose to the jackpot is nothing compared to the stacks they will lose to the good player who can exploit them.

I can't say anything to the future of it.

Thanks for the reply skydiver, I missed the part where the house doesn't benefit. I might have to make a trip up and see this in action.

I deal table games further north at San Manuel and those payouts are almost exactly the same as the 6 card bonus bet in Three Card Poker, an obvious sucker bet and it will just take more money off the table along with the rake.

Kinda seems like desperation and a bad idea to implement a pit game dynamic into their poker room. Hopefully they can get more action going in other ways because I always root for poker rooms to do well and it's nice to travel around and play in different places so I'll come stop by sometime and see what it's like.

Yeah. I have been play at pala in the last two week.
The side bet are terrible.
They limit max bet to $5. It is 1 for xxx so when you win they still take original bet away.
Hands have to be in show down, does not have to be winning hand. But you have to use both hole card and quads have to be pocket pair

Pala poker has been on a free fall for the past few years. This side bet will attract some Friday Saturday night drunks and some losing 3/6 players

to be fair, it's really not meant to attract thinking players Unless those players want to exploit those types it WILL attract.

I think the real idea of it is to make the jackpot go up faster...which then attracts more jackpot chasers, which in theory should just attract more in general.

the jackpot hit on a 1/3 table the other day (where of course, no one was actually playing the side bet)...I told one of the guys they should thank the 3/6 players for padding the amount with the side bet

I'd be willing to bet the Pala poker room will go the way of the Viejas poker room before the end of 2016..

obviously pala and harrahs are competing customers.
last month pala did a cash drawing (ticket handed out in 3 days) on the same day harrahs did its monthly cash drawing (tickets handed out in a month)
Right now, harrahs copy pala doing the hours payment: pala pay $400 for a 80hours play in one month (player can cash out more than once), while harrahs pay $800 for a 80 hours of play in a month (1500$ for 130 hours). (Harrahs basically reward 10$/hour for regulars while pala rewards $5/hour plus $1/hr comp)
now many pala regulars go to harrahs because the payout doubles. and pala hardly make 5 tables on weekend.
I talk to an regular at harrahs last night (he used to play at pala every freaking day), he said that he is try to make 130 hours if the game can go on for 130 hours in a month. He said he used to cash out at pala twice a month.
But remember pala comp $1/hr while harrahs dont. (compare to the 80hours payment that is small but for player who does not play that long it is still an reason to go to pala).
I play 1/3 on weekend but I will never reach their 40hour minimum payout threshold (and for 40 hour they do not pay that much, like $60 or so).
Anyway, it looks real good for an $10/hour rewards to play at harrahs for those regulars who play around that area (harrahs, pechanga,pala) everyday already.
I really wonder who can do 130 hours this month at harrahs....he or she basically cannot be holding a 40 hour 9-5 job because 33 hours a week he has to be playing poker..... (33 hours a week spending at harrahs...what a waste of life.....)